Please Remove the Materia Melding Crafter Restriction

[SnugglesD]

In my experience the majority of DoH outside of my ls/fc that I've interacted with wanted tips for their work. That's not the same thing as saying the majority of DoH out there want tips for their work. If I gave the impression I thought that then I apologize.

I wouldn't be asking for this adjustment if materia had been available in raid gear from the beginning. I would have sucked it up and lvled the jobs as I went. Now, suddenly, it is a requirement. I don't really want to face the prospect of leveling 4 jobs, one from lvl 40 and and 3 from lvl 15 to be able to do this myself. I've managed to take 6 jobs from 50-60 since HW came out. Do you really think this is taking something away from you, or do you oppose easing the melding requirement because you just don't want to see people without DoH having a way to do this?

I never said I was against removing the crafting requirement for guaranteed meld slots. I personally don't care either way. I'll meld for people that need it without charge, but not having to do it frees up my time.

My issue is the non-crafting sentiment that inevitably pops up any time they have to utilize a crafter in any way. Crafters are suddenly greedy bastards out to fuck everyone over. Look at all the threads after anima weapons dropped. Or the zodiac step. Or any time new glamour comes out. Or any time food prices spike after a new raid tier comes around. The list goes on.

I'm not gonna sit here and say crafters should have all dominion over materia and the filthy casual peons should bow down and fork over their gil. But, I'm also not gonna sit here and listen to people putting those words into all crafters' mouths.

[RhaegarFFXIFenrir]

Not sure why this needed a second thread.

This was the first thread when you look at time of posting. That's really beside the point.

My issue is the non-crafting sentiment that inevitably pops up any time they have to utilize a crafter in any way

I hear you and agree. I've seen the price of goods, but I've also seen the price of the materials. If DoW/DoL really want cheaper foods and gear then perhaps they shouldn't be asking for outrageous sums for the mats in the first place. I don't blame the DoH for trying to make the best of the hand that they're dealt. If I REALLY wanted the top tier foods or glamours I would level the requisite jobs no matter how tedious because there would be a reason for doing so. Materia melding on raid gear on the otherhand...I just can't see how allowing the rest of us to do our own melds on this would hurt the DoH community.

[Solarra]

This was the first thread when you look at time of posting. That's really beside the point.

My apologies, I should have checked. It's just hard trying to follow a conversation that's going on in two different threads.

I still haven't seen anyone saying they have been unable to obtain melds, nor having I seen anyone saying they've been forced to pay an exorbitant price because all the crafters are cashing in and gouging them.
I have seen a lot of crafters saying they are happy to do this for free.

Sockets are a nice bonus, it would be a shame if all the complaints over a little inconvenience led to them being removed (i.e. not put on future gear).

[Colorful]

Why are people against such a simple change?

The social aspect? I've asked crafters to craft things many times, I give them the mats, they craft it and I tip them and say thank you. There's very little social interaction there, I've had more social interaction in a duty finder where they can barely speak English than all the times I've asked crafters to craft things, I have more social interaction in 5 minutes of FC/LS chat or Discord.

The profit? Most of you claim to not take a tip, and if people offered a tip it would be what, 2-10k gil at most? Surely there's far, far more time efficient ways to make gil from craftings.

Hell adding an NPC for it could be beneficial towards the economy and slowing down inflation, make them charge a few thousand gil per meld and you're done. Don't give them the ability to overmeld, just the basics.

[Solarra]

Not sure why this needed a second thread. And I still don't get it; it's an mmo what's so awful about having to interact with other players?

No one is asking raiders to level every craft to 60, but if you absolutely refuse to talk to other players then that's your only option. And if you choose to do that, leves make it fairly quick and painless to do; buy the turn-ins and you won't even have to craft! I personally think you'd have to be daft to do it that way, but whatever. At least the choice is there.

No one has said they can't get melds done and most crafters in both threads have said they are happy to meld for free.

This really does feel like complaining for the sake of it.

[Vurtney]

I don't see how this is a problem in any way. The game is already streamlined as it is. Even if you're not in an FC with crafters getting a meld or two takes literally only the effort of typing "wtb x meld, tipping x gil" in shout, done. It's a minor inconvenience. It took 5 minutes to get my lore chest melded this morning, five minutes.

[Kaurie]

I don't see how this is a problem in any way. The game is already streamlined as it is. Even if you're not in an FC with crafters getting a meld or two takes literally only the effort of typing "wtb x meld, tipping x gil" in shout, done. It's a minor inconvenience. It took 5 minutes to get my lore chest melded this morning, five minutes.

Just because something is easy and quick does not mean it's OK/good.

Imagine when you logged in, before you could play your character, you needed to solve a simple math problem. It would be easy, it'd only take a few seconds, but it would be absolutely pointless and pretty dumb.

I have had 0 issues getting my gear melded within minutes of wanting to get it melded. That doesn't mean that I think the process is currently a fun way of doing things.

[Altijacek]

It's a decent idea, but I think if you don't craft you can't be suggesting it. It's fairly easy to level crafters and if you don't want to then this is a decent way to get crafters going. It's a small tip people require. And if you don't want to pay then that's on you, OR find a friend to do it free. Most people just charge 1-10k tips, it's nothing

[Kaurie]

It's a decent idea, but I think if you don't craft you can't be suggesting it. It's fairly easy to level crafters and if you don't want to then this is a decent way to get crafters going. It's a small tip people require. And if you don't want to pay then that's on you, OR find a friend to do it free. Most people just charge 1-10k tips, it's nothing

Definitely not leveling a crafter. I got my ALC to 26 and that was enough for me :\ Most people don't require tips, at least not that I have come across.

[Delmontyb]

It's a decent idea, but I think if you don't craft you can't be suggesting it. It's fairly easy to level crafters and if you don't want to then this is a decent way to get crafters going. It's a small tip people require. And if you don't want to pay then that's on you, OR find a friend to do it free. Most people just charge 1-10k tips, it's nothing

I enjoy crafting in the game, but the idea of "you don't craft so you can't suggest this idea" is at it's root a bad argument to make, and someone could then just turn around and argue the opposite, and we would get no-where. :S

I hope people will see this request for what it is, not a cry to be anti-social, but rather a needed QOL improvement that benefits a vast majority of players.

This system should be fun, but currently the process is anything but fun.