Please Remove the Materia Melding Crafter Restriction

[Legion88]

Before 3.3, the only gear which could be melded with materia was crafted gear. Melding the materia into a piece of gear typically is done by the same crafting class that made the gear. The system was good and it made sense. Now, however, end game raid and token gear are coming with materia sockets. As these gears are not crafted, we shouldn't have to hunt down a crafter in order to meld materia into them. Simply put, what was previously a sensible system now no longer makes sense for the current gear. I get that finding a crafter is more of an inconvenience than anything else; however, doing away with the crafter-only restriction makes complete sense now that we're getting meldable gear from alexander and lore tomes.

First, we have 3.2 with meldable gear from Alex and tomestones. And it makes sense to take it away but it makes also sense to stay like it is.

Nevermind that there's no restriction on converting gear into materia...a process which logically WOULD require a specialist.

And Slappah, most crafters I've run into expect tips for doing this kind of stuff. They don't do it for free. This is going to turn into FFXIV's version of the tele-taxi's we saw in XI.

The converting process is an aetherdrain from the equipment which manifests as materia and the item breaks. It's not that i would need a specialist more a crafter like an aetherworker to extract materia from spiritbound gear.
btw can we get a crafter to extract specific kind of materia from spiritbound gear and put more bad rng on the materia extracting for not using this crafter class?
And you won't pay a service you get? that is kind of rude.
I don't know how the taxistuff in XI worked and it doesn't matter for this subject.

Derio,

How would this make crafters useless? If you're going to make such a bold claim I expect you to back it up. Consider that most of the Orchestrations are crafted. Most of the in demand glamour gear is crafted. There's i220 gear that is crafted that endgamers are buying in bulk. Crafters are an integral part in the relic quests too. Tell me, how would putting melding in the hands of everyone somehow make crafters useless?

Orchestrion rols = Carpenter + Alchemist lvl 15+
in demand glamour gear is mostly only for endgame crafters
i220 gear is also for endgame crafters
relic items = endgame crafting
melding materia into midas/tomestone gear = crafters lvl 50+
It won't make crafters useless but it is a good expansion for their use.
Most things crafters are usefull is endgame crafting till 3.2. Now the low level and pre 60 crafters gain a little bit of use and you want to take that bit of use away in the name of convenience or in other words cause you are to lazy to ask a friend or do it yourself.

If you don't like crafting yourself, don't take away the need or convenience is given to others through crafting.

[Melch]

Don't take my word for it the review on this games economy speak for itself, is rated the worst economy system ever seen in a MMO. But this is what you guys wanted so you cant really complain now can you.

Worst economy system? In a game where everything can be bought and sold? Are you kidding me? This game offers you the most freedom I've ever seen in MMO. Yes it inflates the market, but guess what : it's still a game.

[Kaurie]

Worst economy system? In a game where everything can be bought and sold? Are you kidding me? This game offers you the most freedom I've ever seen in MMO. Yes it inflates the market, but guess what : it's still a game.

This game allows for fewer items to be bought and sold than other MMO's I have played. So many items are untradeable.

[Tev]

It's not like they've reduced any of the stats on dungeon gear. The materia slots are strictly a bonus. You know what else are bonus stats that you can get through the crafting system? Food and stat potions. Next you're going to be saying its unfair to be a/pay a culinarian or alchemist to have access to the stat bonuses you gain from food and the extra cooldown from stat potions. You're no more required or more deserving of having those materia slots filled as you are to have a food buff or stat potions.

[Krysanthia]

It's not like they've reduced any of the stats on dungeon gear. The materia slots are strictly a bonus. You know what else are bonus stats that you can get through the crafting system? Food and stat potions. Next you're going to be saying its unfair to be a/pay a culinarian or alchemist to have access to the stat bonuses you gain from food and the extra cooldown from stat potions. You're no more required or more deserving of having those materia slots filled as you are to have a food buff or stat potions.

Reading the back and forth on this topic made me think hard about whether being upset about this was justified. Thank you for putting to words exactly how I feel about it.

[AskaRay]

I also hate crafting.
Know how I get my melds?

/fc Hey can someone meld this for me? Thanks.

[vp_cmc]

Or just don't meld materia into slots. I'm sure, gear without melds will be enough for any content except savage.

[AsteriaStarfall]

Simply put, what was previously a sensible system now no longer makes sense for the current gear.

Psst....level your crafters Problem solved.

See here is the problem with requests like yours. The system exists that allows you to fully do this yourself instead of having it handed to you. Materia melding is a part of what crafters do. If you choose to not actually perform a part of the game, then do not expect it to be made available to you.

Edit: I mean to clarify why your request has a problem. In FFXIV you can perform all jobs/roles. You are not restricted. If lets say however that you could only choose 2 crafter classes instead of all of them, then yes i would strongly support your position to have the materia melding requirements lifted. Because you are locked by something that would have been implemented before 3.2
However since you have never been restricted, the only problem is that people failed to level their crafters in the many months/years they have been playing.

[Leigaon]

Psst....level your crafters Problem solved...

I think that's what they want you to do. They have given two choices to people. Level each craft so you can meld on your own, or find someone else to do it. That's how this game seems to be set up. They give you ample time to do so much, if you want to do more than that? Prepare to put some time in.

Personally, it does not make or break me to have it crafter related or not. I've only leveled 3 to 60, gave up on the rest. I can ask someone in my FC to meld something for me. I know who the crafters are and if they're on, they can do it.

If they implement it, my only concern is the hard work those who got each crafter to 60 have put in so they can craft..meld. Also I don't like anything you can do by yourself. In a MMO, anything that is made where you don't have to interact with other people just takes it a step backwards. Still, not like it would make or break things.

[Lan_Mantear]

Psst....level your crafters Problem solved.

I dislike responses like these. Something about it just feels.... snobbish, and it is not a very fair statement.

The simple fact is, not everyone is into crafting. Its has a high potential for gain. However, in order to see any of that gain. You've gotta be 'all in'. You can't half-ass crafting and expect to be a gillionaire. That means leveling all your crafting jobs to get all those valuable cross-class skills at minimum. Nevermind the gil investment needed for BIS if you ever want to reliably HQ any of those master-tier recipes.

Yes, you can eventually make a lot of gil, but the road to get to that comfortable position is much, much grindier than getting any Disciple or WAR or Magic jobs to 60. A least in my opinion.

I don't see anything wrong with allowing everyone to meld materia. Add some additional caveats to soothe people bruised egos if you want. Allowing everyone to meld materia is not going to kill crafting. SE did a good job of that already with scrips.