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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    in other games crafters and pve players mix well or at least no1 eyerolls when asked to....in FFXIV is like PVP they dont like each other and dont want to interact with the other side ....one has to wonder why , and who is to blame for that. Maybe is because SE force it , or because PVE think that crafters are greedy ppl , and that crafters think that pve players are like entitled childs? who knows , but the anima thing and the new materia thing isnt helping to make the relationship more friendly.
    well when you see the price of some stuff you can't say that crafter are not greedy. but at the same time say it's only them fault is being naive, it come from SE wanting us to use more cash that make stuff rare, but instead to make people use more cash, it have the inverse effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    well when you see the price of some stuff you can't say that crafter are not greedy..
    Do you know how much time and effort goes into leveling a high end crafter. They sell stuff based on what the market is willing to pay for it. Patience is often important when it comes to buying some items cause prices always moderate. I have a friend who made 40 million last week **gathering** from high end legendary nodes. Is he doing something wrong too? By the way he is someone who has purchased a number of houses for FC members just because he wanted to help them.

    Gathering is hard, crafting is even harder. The fact that many don't elect to do it doesn't make those who do any less valuable or make them greedy either. You want to be able to do what they do work for it and stop with the give me this for free stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Gathering is hard, crafting is even harder. The fact that many don't elect to do it doesn't make those who do any less valuable or make them greedy either. You want to be able to do what they do work for it and stop with the give me this for free stuff.
    How about the give me this for fun stuff? To be honest, if crafting and gathering were just actually enjoyable to more than half the game's population, this thread would not have nearly so many pages right now. "I did my time, so why don't you?" shouldn't be thoughts we find in a game.

    (Additional vague attributions of blame towards glamour system and retainer policies and/or inventory space omitted.)

    But, whatever, this thread isn't about that. It's about how a simple, otherwise positive occurred (actual gear customization! ...albeit faint) had a particular oversight (raid gear didn't need crafters before, and now it does) that others want to remedy only insofar.

    P.S. Indeed, all the people I know who are nice enough to spend money for others' sakes craft or gather. How else would I know they're so nice? After all, they'd have virtually no money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    To be honest, if crafting and gathering were just actually enjoyable to more than half the game's population, this thread would not have nearly so many pages right now.[/SIZE]
    I'm with you on this, especially for gathering. There are multiple ways they could have made the gathering much more fun. For example, with fishing all they needed to do was put in a little mini-game like what was found in Zelda and it would've been a hit.

    I think crafting would be fine like it is but without so much luck involved (something with an 80% chance of success should not fail MOST of the time!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FritoBandito View Post
    I'm with you on this, especially for gathering. There are multiple ways they could have made the gathering much more fun. For example, with fishing all they needed to do was put in a little mini-game like what was found in Zelda and it would've been a hit.
    https://youtu.be/6hIoyNfqlG8?t=214
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    I'm with you on this, especially for gathering. There are multiple ways they could have made the gathering much more fun. For example, with fishing all they needed to do was put in a little mini-game like what was found in Zelda and it would've been a hit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    You used to have to play minigames with Miner and Botanist, too. Have you seen the arcade games "Out on a Limb" and "The Finer Miner" in the Gold Saucer? Those are basically the minigames you used to have to play to mine and harvest.d It did get kinda tedious when you need a lot of material...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FritoBandito View Post
    with fishing all they needed to do was put in a little mini-game
    Imagine trying to catch a thousand fish and having to do that mini game every single time. No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    well when you see the price of some stuff you can't say that crafter are not greedy. but at the same time say it's only them fault is being naive, it come from SE wanting us to use more cash that make stuff rare, but instead to make people use more cash, it have the inverse effect.
    You should take an economics class and learn about supply and demand. Happens in the real world too. The more demand there is, the higher the prices go, the more abundant something is, the lower the prices go.

    Also, im a crafter who can meld, but I'm not high enough to make millions on the MB, am I greedy because I want to retain my materia melding privileges? I feel like I've worked for it, and im not making much money from crafting (more than I was, but crafting is expensive to maintain).

    This thread isn't about crafters being greedy, its apparently about non crafters being lazy and slightly entitled.

    Btw PSA on this issue: if you are on hyperion and have this issue, I'll meld your gear for free (I have GSM, Wvr, LTW, Crp, and soon to have BSM).
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 02-29-2016 at 09:56 PM.