Please let us socket materia without crafting

[silentwindfr]

in other games crafters and pve players mix well or at least no1 eyerolls when asked to....in FFXIV is like PVP they dont like each other and dont want to interact with the other side ....one has to wonder why , and who is to blame for that. Maybe is because SE force it , or because PVE think that crafters are greedy ppl , and that crafters think that pve players are like entitled childs? who knows , but the anima thing and the new materia thing isnt helping to make the relationship more friendly.

well when you see the price of some stuff you can't say that crafter are not greedy. but at the same time say it's only them fault is being naive, it come from SE wanting us to use more cash that make stuff rare, but instead to make people use more cash, it have the inverse effect.

[LaylaTsarra]

well when you see the price of some stuff you can't say that crafter are not greedy..

Do you know how much time and effort goes into leveling a high end crafter. They sell stuff based on what the market is willing to pay for it. Patience is often important when it comes to buying some items cause prices always moderate. I have a friend who made 40 million last week **gathering** from high end legendary nodes. Is he doing something wrong too? By the way he is someone who has purchased a number of houses for FC members just because he wanted to help them.

Gathering is hard, crafting is even harder. The fact that many don't elect to do it doesn't make those who do any less valuable or make them greedy either. You want to be able to do what they do work for it and stop with the give me this for free stuff.

[Shurrikhan]

Gathering is hard, crafting is even harder. The fact that many don't elect to do it doesn't make those who do any less valuable or make them greedy either. You want to be able to do what they do work for it and stop with the give me this for free stuff.

How about the give me this for fun stuff? To be honest, if crafting and gathering were just actually enjoyable to more than half the game's population, this thread would not have nearly so many pages right now. "I did my time, so why don't you?" shouldn't be thoughts we find in a game.

(Additional vague attributions of blame towards glamour system and retainer policies and/or inventory space omitted.)

But, whatever, this thread isn't about that. It's about how a simple, otherwise positive occurred (actual gear customization! ...albeit faint) had a particular oversight (raid gear didn't need crafters before, and now it does) that others want to remedy only insofar.

P.S. Indeed, all the people I know who are nice enough to spend money for others' sakes craft or gather. How else would I know they're so nice? After all, they'd have virtually no money.

[FritoBandito]

To be honest, if crafting and gathering were just actually enjoyable to more than half the game's population, this thread would not have nearly so many pages right now.[/SIZE]

I'm with you on this, especially for gathering. There are multiple ways they could have made the gathering much more fun. For example, with fishing all they needed to do was put in a little mini-game like what was found in Zelda and it would've been a hit.

I think crafting would be fine like it is but without so much luck involved (something with an 80% chance of success should not fail MOST of the time!)

[Lambdafish]

well when you see the price of some stuff you can't say that crafter are not greedy. but at the same time say it's only them fault is being naive, it come from SE wanting us to use more cash that make stuff rare, but instead to make people use more cash, it have the inverse effect.

You should take an economics class and learn about supply and demand. Happens in the real world too. The more demand there is, the higher the prices go, the more abundant something is, the lower the prices go.

Also, im a crafter who can meld, but I'm not high enough to make millions on the MB, am I greedy because I want to retain my materia melding privileges? I feel like I've worked for it, and im not making much money from crafting (more than I was, but crafting is expensive to maintain).

This thread isn't about crafters being greedy, its apparently about non crafters being lazy and slightly entitled.

Btw PSA on this issue: if you are on hyperion and have this issue, I'll meld your gear for free (I have GSM, Wvr, LTW, Crp, and soon to have BSM).

[Solarra]

No, definitely don't think this should happen. I've read through the entire thread and not one person has reported having trouble getting someone to meld for them. It's simply a case of not wanting to make the effort of putting out a /sh or asking in FC chat.
It's not like you don't have any choice, while most crafters are happy to meld, levelling your own crafters to 60 really isn't all that hard either, if you use your leves and spend a bit of gil, you can do it in under a week.

[CGMidlander]

well when you see the price of some stuff you can't say that crafter are not greedy. but at the same time say it's only them fault is being naive, it come from SE wanting us to use more cash that make stuff rare, but instead to make people use more cash, it have the inverse effect.

You're looking at it from a consumer's standpoint, not a producer's standpoint. Producers need a ROI in order to continue to do what they do comfortably. Melding new gear is costly. Obtaining materials can be costly. (In time or gil) Failures can be costly. (Some things rely on RNG to an extent in order to HQ)
Favors for friends can be costly. (e.g. Crafting something at a discount/free for a friend)

[Evangela]

I don't understand some crafters who're against this request. If you enjoy crafting, good for you. The others don't, and they shouldn't be forced to do what they don't want to.

It's like some kids don't want to lose their relevancy or something. Insecure?

[Artemiz]

I don't understand some crafters who're against this request. If you enjoy crafting, good for you. The others don't, and they shouldn't be forced to do what they don't want to.

It's like some kids don't want to lose their relevancy or something. Insecure?

What I don't understand is why it's now too difficult for people to shout in Idyllshire for a meld. As a crafter I've been doing melds for people for years, tipping is optional but appreciated. It was common practice back when relic weapons where a thing back in 2.0. Apparently now though it's too much to ask.

[Andrea]

What I don't understand is why it's now too difficult for people to shout in Idyllshire for a meld. As a crafter I've been doing melds for people for years, tipping is optional but appreciated. It was common practice back when relic weapons where a thing back in 2.0. Apparently now though it's too much to ask.

talking to people in an mmo? don't be crazy.