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  1. #71
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Eh I still think open slots should have anyone be able to plop Materia in and Crafters have the boon of overmelding which implies the Crafter is melding in new slots to existing equipment that wouldn't be there normally. You shouldn't have to ask someone or even level a crafter to click one button to put materia in a slot. It's just nonsense and only serves to apply padding.

    Besides if you only had to level one crafter then great. However it usually ends up for different gear you end up having to level up a multitude of 3-5 crafters just to apply materia on all your combat class equipment for a desired class. And to do that not only takes a lot of investment but it also drains your Gil reservoir to do so.

    And at this stage with level 60 gear they want crafters at the max level of 60. Just to plop a gemstone in a piece of gear. Have fun with that. I know I will.
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  2. #72
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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Cirra Maru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    This. No. Level it or ask for help.
    lol completely missed that sarcasm, and I thought I wasn't good at seeing stuff like that XD. Zetsu's post was awesome XD.
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  3. #73
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    Shug's Avatar
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    Mimmoki Moki
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Funny how the richest people in the game get upset when someone brings up something all classes should have been able to do from the start. All Final Fantasy games that have materia are melded by whoever has it. Why get upset about missing out on a tip when you have millions of gil stashed away?
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  4. #74
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    Funny how the richest people in the game get upset when someone brings up something all classes should have been able to do from the start. All Final Fantasy games that have materia are melded by whoever has it. Why get upset about missing out on a tip when you have millions of gil stashed away?
    Another post by someone who has no idea what he's talking about. First, you assume that every craftswoman has millions of gil stashed away. In actual fact, you'll find combat classes generally have more disposable income than crafters because every quest and dungeon run drops gil, and they have little to no reason to spend any of it since all of the best gear costs nothing to obtain but time. Crafters, on the other hand, will use said gil to purchase rare materials or crystals to continue their craft and pour millions into getting their skills to a level where they can make the stuff which actually makes that kind of gil in the first place.

    There are also those players who eke out a living on low-cost items and rely on things like materia melds and such to supplement the advancement of their crafts. Furthermore, comparing this game to every other FF game would be meaningless as only FFXI actually has crafting. FFXI crafting is not just a big industry, but they can make some of the top tier equipment in the entire game. Here, we're stuck with second best (if even that) equipment, and pretty outfits that have zero stats on them.

    People here are extremely biased towards crafters. You see them as money-hoarding fat-cats, when the reality is most of us aren't all that rich and are heavily reliant on the wealth of our peers. Most crafting is done to further our crafting, whether that's making new tools and gear to push us to that next level, or crafting collectibles for scrips. It's very circular. But then, I suppose I'm just arguing with someone who only see's dollar signs in their eyes whenever they look at crafting jobs.
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  5. #75
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    Shug's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Another post by someone who has no idea what he's talking about. First, you assume that every craftswoman has millions of gil stashed away. In actual fact, you'll find combat classes generally have more disposable income than crafters because every quest and dungeon run drops gil, and they have little to no reason to spend any of it since all of the best gear costs nothing to obtain but time. Crafters, on the other hand, will use said gil to purchase rare materials or crystals to continue their craft and pour millions into getting their skills to a level where they can make the stuff which actually makes that kind of gil in the first place.
    The fact that the new 220 crafted gear cost 10mil tells me that I do know what I'm talking about. Learn 2 marketboard.
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  6. #76
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    The fact that the new 220 crafted gear cost 10mil tells me that I do know what I'm talking about. Learn 2 marketboard.
    Yeah my servers marketboard just extorts ransoms for a single material of any crafter gear. Griffin Leather. 2 million. Any mat for the current Eikon gear? 1 million each. Any gear piece? 6 million to 10 million easily.

    You basically need a functioning FC to get anything done in a decent manner without getting frustrated. Which could include Diadem silliness, high Gathering prerequisites, want a specific meld will require a specific lvl 60 crafter, etc.
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  7. #77
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    Teayen Seishero
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    The reason they designed the materia system the way they did as well as almost every other system in this game is so that we will be social and work together. This game is an mmorpg a genre that was created specifically so people could interact with each other and be social. If you don't wanna be social go play another game. If your fc crafter is annoyed by you asking for melds all the time then seek help outside your fc. I like that materia is now more relevant it allows crafters to play an even bigger role in this game just beyond crafting the gear itself. Stop crying about everything that isn't "simple or easy" there is nothing wrong with the materia system as it is now just suck it up and deal with it.
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  8. #78
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    Archaell's Avatar
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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    The fact that the new 220 crafted gear cost 10mil tells me that I do know what I'm talking about. Learn 2 marketboard.
    Maybe you should learn to lodestone and look up the required materials for the gear. You would be surprised how much these cost. The good news is that everybody is free to grind these materials and sell them for profit to buy the gear they want. I don't know why, but a lot of players are forgetting about the fact that crafted items require materials and battle jobs can farm big portion of these.

    To be honest I think people are overreacting with this melding. How often are you going to get a new gear that would require melds? Few times a week? Those few minutes are nothing in comparison how long does it take to level up crafting.

    I don't think the melding should be removed from the crafters, and I don't even have the crafters leveled up yet, because it is tedious... I totally dislike the leveling part of it. Crafting is fun, it is great when players use your gear, but the leveling is painful grind - and for that you pay.

    Were there more people crafting and gathering the prices would be lower. Anyone can join in and do the tedious leveling to sell the items for cheap, but then you would actually see how tedious it is.
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  9. #79
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    Mish Nhanniji
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeg44 View Post
    The reason they designed the materia system the way they did as well as almost every other system in this game is so that we will be social and work together. This game is an mmorpg a genre that was created specifically so people could interact with each other and be social. If you don't wanna be social go play another game. If your fc crafter is annoyed by you asking for melds all the time then seek help outside your fc. I like that materia is now more relevant it allows crafters to play an even bigger role in this game just beyond crafting the gear itself. Stop crying about everything that isn't "simple or easy" there is nothing wrong with the materia system as it is now just suck it up and deal with it.
    This! my thoughts exacty.
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    TheRogueX's Avatar
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    Ah yes, remember that time I made a sweeping generalization and then a thing happened that seemingly confirmed my biased opinions and beliefs? Clearly this confirmed my biased opinions and beliefs! No need to reflect upon nuance or the like.
    Wow, you totally got me there! Great job!

    No, actually, you completely missed the point. But, I'll give you a gold star for effort, though. Everyone gets gold stars nowadays, even when they fail, right?
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