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  1. #711
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTyra View Post
    1300 sets calcuated and still not found out what the most optimal set is at i245 @ 720 accuracy .
    I'm probably wrong, but, I had this thought.. Every piece of raid gear is going to have more secondary stats then what we are able to meld. Like, at most we can add is 24 stat points since no overmelds. Would it be better to take, 216 acc off the target acc and just calculate the highest dps set with full acc melds? I don't know, just a thought I had since typically we've always wanted to take the highest weighted pieces and kinda fill acc in where necessary.

    It sounds too goofy to be a good idea but almost makes sense to me lol. It may just not be a viable progression idea tho, since raiding is like a box a chocolates..

    Just messing around:
    Midan spear http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/STKE
    Slipstream spear http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/STKI
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    Last edited by whiskeybravo; 02-28-2016 at 02:03 AM.

  2. #712
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    Mini Tyra
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I've calculated all of the BiS sets up to 720 with melds and everything.

    I slightly cheated, however.... To speed up the "DPS" Solver, I had to remove a lot gear choices. I did multiple runs on a long 3 hour solver at 650 -> 730 SS and there's few pieces of gear/melds which don't appear on any of them. Notable pieces which are completely useless are the Midan Earrings, Augmented Chest, Midan Legs, Midan Helm, Midan Bracelets, afaik. So I removed all of those, and now my solver only takes 30 mins \o/. I will note, that these sets are all extremely high on SS (690-710 range).

    The Stat-Weighted BiS sets though, whilst those are solved instantly, have a tendency to flipflop between 640~ SS, and 680~SS. Either way, prepare for the SS meta.

    Our BiS then, for the most part, is basically full Augmented Slipstream, except for Chest, Boots, belt and a Ring.

    As for DRG 3.2 weights... I'll publish them next week, unless Sunny posts them before I do
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    Last edited by MiniTyra; 02-28-2016 at 03:22 AM.

  3. #713
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    Ninjah2r's Avatar
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    Wing Z'ero
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    how the hell do we pull of the rotation with high ss? o.O

    I mean like my muscle memory has issues now at 2.36 gcd cause I had 2.41 for so damn long lol.
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  4. #714
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    This one is the only one I ran into that didn't look stupid, and it uses slipstream chest, but it also ain't BiS. My simulator is giving the best results for sets with skill speed in the 400s and I'll really have to take a closer look at what to do in those cases (pshhhh I've been putting that off since Law was BiS though).

    Weight ballparks at i240 (for those who are unfamiliar with the process, weights are relative to a gear set; don't have a BiS in mind, you don't have "the" weights):

    STR = 1 (~1.50 DPS)
    DET = .170-.174
    CRT = .233-.236
    WD = 12.6
    SS = .145-.149

    You can see all secondaries creeping up relative to STR, but if you take a ratio you can also see that Determination has regained a little stature next to Critical (not enough to matter, though). It's still CRIT CRIT CRIT, yo.
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  5. #715
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    Stat-weighted @ 720acc: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/STV5 - If you're uncomfortable with 578 SS: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/STXY

    "DPS solved" @ 720acc: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/STVJ - Alternatively, for a tiny bit more consistency: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/STVP

    Both of those sets are extremely... Extreme. Though, I think I can get a better DPS calculated set if I let it do a proper, 5 hour run on this toaster PC i'm using... And of course, 720 acc is a completely made up accuracy value.

    And yeah, those weights are dead-on with what I'm getting.
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    Last edited by MiniTyra; 02-28-2016 at 08:38 AM.

  6. #716
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    Slappah Lol
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    Jenova
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Hey guys I recently switched my main to drg and I got to wondering

    Is there such a thing as too much crit? I'm at 789 and it seems really high, but at the same time it feels so good just knowing I have almost 800 crit.

    Also what do you suggest melding in the new gear? I melded a crit IV in my midan belt, saving tier V for when I get 240 stuff, don't feel it's worth it on 220-230 gear.

    On a side note, I wish I tried this job sooner, I've been playing since ps4 launch and I've switched mains a lot, but I've never had as much fun as I'm having as dragoon.
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  7. #717
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    enil's Avatar
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    Mirri Weatherlight
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    Tonberry
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Slappah View Post
    Is there such a thing as too much crit?
    Not realistically.
    Theoretically you could run into some soft/hard caps at 100%, 90%, 85% and 70% crit rates (100% crit, 100% crit with IR, 100% crit with Battle Littany, 100% crit with IR+BL) but these values are not reachable.
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  8. #718
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    Severard Coldheart
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    Lamia
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Currently I'm at i211 and did SSS Seph EX. According to the SSS calculator I'm doing 1407.86 DPS. Is that a bit low for my gear level? I don't know how to boost it higher. This is without food, pots, buffs, or materia.
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  9. #719
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    C'thuuko Tohka
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 100
    I see a lot of people talking theory about calculating BiS for certain Accuracy caps, but does anyone know what the actual caps are for any of the fights yet? Also, how much do you actually attack things from the front this tier?
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  10. #720
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    Slappah Lol
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    Jenova
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HeavenlyArmed View Post
    how much do you actually attack things from the front this tier?
    In my experience not THAT often

    There are a few mechanics where you'll be facing the front of the boss for maybe a GCD but that's it
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