How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[JackFross]

Oh and I will just note (even though it's a silly thing to note) that upgrades are multiplicative, not additive. You should always be giving out weapon upgrades to the dps players in order of their performance. The BLM pumping out 1700 on Hammelfaust is gonna realistically put a tomestone to better use than the DRG beside them doing 1200-1300. In my experience, every group has that one all-star DPS that all strategies seem to center around. You make that dps do the thing to impact their dps the least. You build the comp around helping that dps perform his/her best.

Stuff like this is pretty common in the not-top-percentage statics. It's not *always* a melee who has that distinction. There's a group on my server that had been pretty heavily leaning on their Bard for all of Gordias. Even in their A5S kill, they were top:
http://www.fflogs.com/reports/JvzXML...pe=damage-done
Or another group on my server that has historically leaned heavy on the Summoner:
http://www.fflogs.com/reports/jzc9vn...pe=damage-done

So, yeah, while it should generally be melee first, it should also depend on each individual player's actual performance when you're looking at an order (past the point when the weapons can be bought that week, of course).

[JackFross]

It should go to healers or tanks. There are no extreme DPS checks if you have a solid team giving it to the healer or tank will benefit more.

Heals don't scale well - the upgrade from a weapon benefits the healer least out of all of the jobs. It doesn't help the raid survive any better than more efficient healing does.

Weapons DO boost enmity generation for tanks, but tanks don't need more enmity generation. So if you're giving someone (a tank) a weapon to boost dps, why aren't you giving it to the dps instead?

Again - upgrades are multiplicative. Your output will increase relative to your current output. Tanks were drastically scaled down in 3.2 (~20% drop) so a weapon going to a tank over a dps (when tanks get MUCH more mileage out of buying vit accessories and melding strength, by value-per-tome) is absolutely ludicrous.


More dps = faster kills = fewer mechanics seen = less chance the raid fucks up = more consistent clears

There's absolutely no reason at all to give High-Capacity Tomestone 1-4 to anyone other than each of the 4 dps in this current meta.

[Sleigh]

It should go to healers or tanks. There are no extreme DPS checks if you have a solid team giving it to the healer or tank will benefit more.

Going by A8S training dummies, it will be tuned pretty tight for current gear. My group in i220 can get sub-5% on the dummies, sometimes clearing it with good crits, but on average we do not currently clear the dummies. I intend on clearing A8S by week 3 or 4, or within a week or so of world first, so for me, getting more group DPS seems the most logical means of securing a win in that time frame. Even back in SCoB I think it was favorable to give DPS the weapon tomes. More DPS generally means you get to push a phase before another mechanic comes out. Healing and tanking's still relatively lax in this tier so far, it's only the mechanics that are rough, and seeing less of them is priority #1.

My group gave our A6S tome to our DRG, I doubt we'll regret it TBH.

[whiskeybravo]

Hak sends his regards, apparently using a serious medical condition as an adjective to describe a thread results in perma-ban lol

Spent like like 30 hours in seph ex, multiple enrage attempts.. still no clear. Static hasn't even attempt a5s.. I'll be getting a serious medical condition myself if I can't get clears this week ; ;

[Ninjah2r]

Hak sends his regards, apparently using a serious medical condition as an adjective to describe a thread results in perma-ban lol

Jesus se, rip Hak...


and what items are you all getting this week? I plan on getting my trousers + don't know what to get from alex (got belt last week), any recommendations?

[Aiurily]

rip hak ;_;

[whiskeybravo]

what items are you all getting this week? I plan on getting my trousers + don't know what to get from alex (got belt last week), any recommendations?

Lore legs. Midan head hands and boots, need accuracy so i can wear crafted chest. Midan wrist.

Gives me pretty much the stats i have now +60 or so str

[Nominous]

What is the DPS benefit of 2 Geirskoguls per BfB (when applicable)? Let's say over the course of a longer (full uptime-ish) fight, one person manages this relationship, but the other doesn't. What would the difference between their DPS be?

[JackFross]

and what items are you all getting this week? I plan on getting my trousers + don't know what to get from alex (got belt last week), any recommendations?

I'm gonna be sitting on this set once I finish my lore grinding and my Void Ark for the week. Last week I nabbed a ring and (stupidly) the midas hat. This week belt+bracelet and lore pants.

If you don't have the ring yet, get that. Wrist and neck are also good options.

[MiniTyra]

What is the DPS benefit of 2 Geirskoguls per BfB (when applicable)? Let's say over the course of a longer (full uptime-ish) fight, one person manages this relationship, but the other doesn't. What would the difference between their DPS be?

I can't calculate it in terms of DPS, but it's approximately an additional 1PPS.