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  1. #691
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    Sir_Hermes's Avatar
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    Man Bearpig
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Accuracy if you plan on savage, yours is really low, and if you don't plan on it, the don't use tier V because that's a waste
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  2. #692
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I don't want to alarm anyone, but calculating BiS is a bit more complicated with the melding now ^^;;

    Anyway, I'm estimating ~2000 DPS at whatever BiS ends up being; if so, the SSS target for Burden of the Son (Savage) at i240 [1770 / 2000 = .885] isn't as harshly tuned as Burden of the Father (Savage) at i210 [1360 / 1490 = .913], but that could also just be the weapon damage talking.

    (Hope you like farming materia, though....)
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  3. #693
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    MiniTyra's Avatar
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    Mini Tyra
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Yup. My model estimates, in full duo-melds, 2.1k with the new Max Potions.

    BiS gearring is just as easy. I simply add every possible combination of meld as a separate gear piece and run the solvers that way. It does mean I have around 100 gear pieces, rather than 24, to solve for... But meh.

    Also, lol @ Crit. I don't know if you've tried to check the new weights Sunny, but Crit is hngggg
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  4. #694
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    Ninjah2r's Avatar
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    Wing Z'ero
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    hnnng as in you came? I'm now rocking the new 3 star chest, alex head and alex belt. which gives me 773 ss with the i210 brionac. I was at 579 yesterday lmfao. so from 2.41 gcd to 2.34.

    I feel like a dragoon on coke now. so f'ing fast.

    can call me a drugoon too


    I'll see myself out...
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  5. #695
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTyra View Post
    BiS gearring is just as easy. I simply add every possible combination of meld as a separate gear piece and run the solvers that way. It does mean I have around 100 gear pieces, rather than 24, to solve for... But meh.
    Yes, I've just had a long-term case of coder's block (it's part of why I do what I do in this game). It's long past time I either made my own or adapted MrYaah's solver.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTyra View Post
    Also, lol @ Crit. I don't know if you've tried to check the new weights Sunny, but Crit is hngggg
    EIGHTY EIGHT MILES PER HOURRRRR
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  6. #696
    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by PheonixCain View Post
    i had to use GK and give up that BOTD
    The only Quarantine where this could potentially be an issue is #2, for which you should have Elusive Jump ready and a combo proc'd and ready to use on the nearest leg you can elusive toward. O: 1 and 3 spit you out pretty close to Mortal Revolution (3 also has the Elusive Jump clause - and in all my runs I have never been picked for BOTH 2 and 3 - and I've never seen a dps get picked for both of those two - it's either 1, 2, 3, 1-2, or 1-3, in my experience).


    And I've been mucking around a bit with gearsets and can't settle on one set I particularly love.

    The only thing that is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY in my opinion - every single Dragoon must absolutely without a doubt invest in the 220 crafted chest. Unless your group is gonna down A8S sometime soon, which seems quite unlikely, you'll definitely want it. It's more flexible than the acc/sks 230-240 and is marginally worse than the 240 Lore chest, both fully melded.


    AAAAAND. Until we see an A7S clear that *fingers crossed* drops a Gobdip, we need to be operating under the assumption that it's gonna be 220 from Sephirot -> 230 from (A6S please?) 7 weeks -> 240/245 from A8S, which, while super shitty, means that dps check is a LOT tighter, since we can't have 240 weapons going into it. We're stuck with 230 at best. That's a pretty substantial difference in terms of dps capacity.
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  7. #697
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    Mini Tyra
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    Yes, I've just had a long-term case of coder's block (it's part of why I do what I do in this game). It's long past time I either made my own or adapted MrYaah's solver.
    I have a solver similar to MrYaah which now calculates via DPS... 1 hour in, 1300 sets calcuated and still not found out what the most optimal set is at i245 @ 720 accuracy (which is what I guess A8S accuracy will be); That's after removing "junk" melds.

    Alternatively, we could use stat-weights still, but it doesn't accurately reflect the high SS/CRT build, which somehow turned out give the highest DPS contributions in both your Excel Model, and someone elses. Most of the stat-weighted sets anyway, give 1100+ CRT and 640+ SS anyway... Meh.
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    Last edited by MiniTyra; 02-26-2016 at 12:09 AM.

  8. #698
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    ColdestHeaven's Avatar
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    Seyrleen Cinderbraid
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    Ragnarok
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Do we have any idea if upgrading Lore gear will retain the materias melded within? Probably not, but it never hurts to hope.
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  9. #699
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTyra View Post
    I have a solver similar to MrYaah which now calculates via DPS... 1 hour in, 1300 sets calcuated and still not found out what the most optimal set is at i245 @ 720 accuracy (which is what I guess A8S accuracy will be); That's after removing "junk" melds.
    See, as a computer scientist, I probably could make something faster, it just wouldn't be enough faster in all likelihood. It's a combinatorically unpleasant problem to start with, and then you have the matter of multiple accuracy caps. Granted, a thing I would do to simplify matters is to not include accuracy melds at first, then see where there are accuracy jumps between solved sets.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTyra View Post
    Alternatively, we could use stat-weights still, but it doesn't accurately reflect the high SS/CRT build, which somehow turned out give the highest DPS contributions in both your Excel Model, and someone elses. Most of the stat-weighted sets anyway, give 1100+ CRT and 640+ SS anyway... Meh.
    Well, I don't remember if I ever got around to toning down the skill speed thing in that one I sent out, so there is that....

    Quote Originally Posted by ColdestHeaven View Post
    Do we have any idea if upgrading Lore gear will retain the materias melded within? Probably not, but it never hurts to hope.
    I was really hoping there'd be a way to pop used materia out of raid gear, but maybe that's too much to ask.
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  10. #700
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    Ninjah2r's Avatar
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    Wing Z'ero
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    I now have these parts crafted with these melds:

    Head: 2 X det V, 3 X det IV

    Body: 2 x det V, 3 x det IV

    Belt(not crafted, from alex): Crit V

    Feet: Crit V atm

    Necklace: Det V

    Earring: Crit V

    Ring: Det V.

    This is the 3 star eikon stuff which I'm talking about, I didnt cap all stuff with melds like my feet and my accessories, but what should the other melds on those be? I wanna make sure because I already spent lots of money on this XD
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