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    Ninjah2r's Avatar
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    Wing Z'ero
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    hmm okay, already melding some accuracy IV then. atm on 645 lol
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    ColdestHeaven's Avatar
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    Seyrleen Cinderbraid
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    Ragnarok
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Let me get one thing straight, what is the reasoning behind what to meld when it comes to choose between determination and critical hit rate? Personal preference, or is there something else I should probably know? Because were it for me, I'd just stack determination (constant "sure" damage vs random damage spike) - but considering I'm seeing crit builds everywhere I feel like I'm missing something. Sorry if it's a noob question.
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    Shinji2787's Avatar
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    Senpai Meow
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ColdestHeaven View Post
    Let me get one thing straight, what is the reasoning behind what to meld when it comes to choose between determination and critical hit rate? Personal preference, or is there something else I should probably know? Because were it for me, I'd just stack determination (constant "sure" damage vs random damage spike) - but considering I'm seeing crit builds everywhere I feel like I'm missing something. Sorry if it's a noob question.
    If I recall correctly with 3.0 they changed how Determination affects damage, so the benefit of the constant damage becomes slightly less than the benefit of the random critical hits that will occur. Basically the increase in steady damage is outweighed by the random spiked critical damage due to how they reworked Determination at 3.0 launch.

    As a side note... What do people think of this as an end game wishlist build? http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SSFO
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    Pain Dontomberry
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinji2787 View Post
    As a side note... What do people think of this as an end game wishlist build? http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SSFO
    For what I know you cant overmeld(pentameld) blue gear, just the crafted 220 gear, or im wrong?
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    Senpai Meow
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by PaiiNx View Post
    For what I know you cant overmeld(pentameld) blue gear, just the crafted 220 gear, or im wrong?
    Ahh my bad then, i thought I couldn't do it because you have to be level 60 crafter or something. Sad days...
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    Sieren Windsor
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 70
    What do you guys think about getting crafted accessories? The power ratio of crafted:tome item is a lot higher for accessories than left side gear because of less STR per ilevel increase and more melding opportunities. But would you guys be afraid of replacing the crafted items too early or something if A5S drops that accessory?
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    Wing Z'ero
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    Mini Tyra
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I've calculated all of the BiS sets up to 720 with melds and everything.

    I slightly cheated, however.... To speed up the "DPS" Solver, I had to remove a lot gear choices. I did multiple runs on a long 3 hour solver at 650 -> 730 SS and there's few pieces of gear/melds which don't appear on any of them. Notable pieces which are completely useless are the Midan Earrings, Augmented Chest, Midan Legs, Midan Helm, Midan Bracelets, afaik. So I removed all of those, and now my solver only takes 30 mins \o/. I will note, that these sets are all extremely high on SS (690-710 range).

    The Stat-Weighted BiS sets though, whilst those are solved instantly, have a tendency to flipflop between 640~ SS, and 680~SS. Either way, prepare for the SS meta.

    Our BiS then, for the most part, is basically full Augmented Slipstream, except for Chest, Boots, belt and a Ring.

    As for DRG 3.2 weights... I'll publish them next week, unless Sunny posts them before I do
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    Last edited by MiniTyra; 02-28-2016 at 03:22 AM.

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    how the hell do we pull of the rotation with high ss? o.O

    I mean like my muscle memory has issues now at 2.36 gcd cause I had 2.41 for so damn long lol.
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    This one is the only one I ran into that didn't look stupid, and it uses slipstream chest, but it also ain't BiS. My simulator is giving the best results for sets with skill speed in the 400s and I'll really have to take a closer look at what to do in those cases (pshhhh I've been putting that off since Law was BiS though).

    Weight ballparks at i240 (for those who are unfamiliar with the process, weights are relative to a gear set; don't have a BiS in mind, you don't have "the" weights):

    STR = 1 (~1.50 DPS)
    DET = .170-.174
    CRT = .233-.236
    WD = 12.6
    SS = .145-.149

    You can see all secondaries creeping up relative to STR, but if you take a ratio you can also see that Determination has regained a little stature next to Critical (not enough to matter, though). It's still CRIT CRIT CRIT, yo.
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