How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[PheonixCain]

if you're using legacy with a controller you should use lock on, so you won't miss auto attacks. It takes some time to get used to turning it off and on for certain situations ( at least it did for me) but auto attacks are important.

yea i used to have R3 as "face target" but i just recently changed it to "lock on" and still practicing this

the thing i hate the most was that during lock on, the screen center around the lock on target, and kinda push my character to the lower bottom of the screen, and my HUD setting have all the shits crowded at the bottom, so the HUD would block a lot of sight for me such as aoe indicators or how far away my character is from the target (cuz in some fight, i tried to stay at max melee range), but bcuz they are blocking my sight, there were several times i actually back out a couple steps away from the max melee range.

does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the lock on camera angle?

[whiskeybravo]

That was actually one of my biggest problems with the lock, it was terrible being a lala on top of it lol. There is a way to adjust the camera height, like crtl+shift then up/down on the arrow keys (for pc). But it didn't seem to affect the height while locked on, and I'm not sure if it works on ps3/4 if you're on one of those.

Best way to mitigate that I've found is reduce the size of cross hotbar UI element and shove it down as far as you're comfortable with. Another thing I did was disable the action help text that pops up when you hold L2 or R2 (the one that tells you the ability name). It's somewhere in the settings but I forget exactly where, it's just a check box you uncheck.

There's no true way to fix it that I've found, just a few things to help it not be so bad.

[JackFross]

does anyone know if there's a way to adjust the lock on camera angle?

There isn't, to my knowledge.

I have this video of a run of A3S I did (just p1+2). I play on controller and use lock-on. Maybe it could help you figure out ways to "fix" your hud or somesuch to make it easier. The biggest trick is to zoom ALL the way out. That was also with my old static, where I was at 2 o'clock for Protean...

That aside: using LB is a minor loss, but a loss nonetheless. It usually eats a Geirskogul, which is bad, as well as replacing 1 full combo (which is a LOT of damage). MCH and NIN are approximately even for DPS gains, with NIN beating out MCH by a bit.

What I would do is use the Compare feature of fflogs and figure out what you're doing differently from some other Dragoon you want to emulate. If you find that you're already doing things about the same as them, you can chalk the difference up to gear/party comp/lucky crits/etc.

I mean, I'm still 1550 Faust because I can't for the life of me get a lucky run. Every good Faust run has an insane amount of crits. None of them break 1600-1650 without having stupid high critrate and/or astrologian support.



And at the above from Whiskey - there IS a way to do the camera height thing on PS4. It's in Character Configuration, at the bottom of Control Settings - 3rd Person Camera Settings. I have mine down to 0, but I don't think it changes anything when locked on.


//EDIT: This is what my UI looks like, now. It's been working fine for me, assuming I handle the camera well. I'm stuck under the boss on leg 2, so I need to pull in tighter for that ;-; but I never have issues seeing everything. The big empty space in the bottom right is where my number stuff overlay goes.

[Orlandeu]

//EDIT: This is what my UI looks like, now. It's been working fine for me, assuming I handle the camera well. I'm stuck under the boss on leg 2, so I need to pull in tighter for that ;-; but I never have issues seeing everything. The big empty space in the bottom right is where my number stuff overlay goes.

Those cooldown macros tho, a wise person once told me to arrange my keybind/hotbars so I can keep track of my CDs better.
http://puu.sh/nc0eF/e5e7db7695.jpg

[JackFross]

Those cooldown macros tho, a wise person once told me to arrange my keybind/hotbars so I can keep track of my CDs better.
http://puu.sh/nc0eF/e5e7db7695.jpg

I only have 1 macro on those bars. The rest are actual instances of the skills that I don't actually click ever.
The macro is:

/micon "Leg Sweep"
/p Battle Litany <recast.battle litany>
/p Blood for Blood <recast.blood for blood>
/p Leg Sweep 0:13
/p Blood of the Dragon <recast.blood of the dragon>

Each of the names are auto-translate. I usually just use those buffs to hover over and see my timers to decide if I wanna click Yes or not on a ready check.

[Orlandeu]

I only have 1 macro on those bars. The rest are actual instances of the skills that I don't actually click ever.
The macro is:

/micon "Leg Sweep"
/p Battle Litany <recast.battle litany>
/p Blood for Blood <recast.blood for blood>
/p Leg Sweep 0:13
/p Blood of the Dragon <recast.blood of the dragon>

Each of the names are auto-translate. I usually just use those buffs to hover over and see my timers to decide if I wanna click Yes or not on a ready check.

yeah thats actually what i meant, just an instance of the CD to keep track of its timer heh, but anyway, i just thought it was cool

[TheKingSlayer]

what else can i do to improve?

You're numbers aren't that far off. You cant control your party comp and the fact that other drgs may have Nins, Mch, and Asts feeding them balance cards.

What you can control is how you play. I pour over FFlogs looking at the top drgs and seeing what they do differently and where I can improve. I looked at a few of your logs and noticed a couple things. It looks like you aren't popping B4B on cooldown and may not be maximizing your buffs. For example, my A1S was 15 secs faster and I used B4B 4 times you only used it 3 times. I used Life Surge 5 times, you used it 4. Those are big buffs you're missing out on.

Also look at your Buff uptime... your HT was only up 81% of the time, mine was up close to 90%. These small things can have a profound impact.

A great man once said "Uptime is the strongest buff in the game, period." <Cough> <Cough> Sunny

[Zymeth]

Hi, I am about to start doing a lot calculations for me and my static. Everything works fine but I stuck at one point. I dont understand how you calculate a DPS-Value for a specific Gear-Set. I tried to calculate the DPS of a whole opener and failed because of thousand possibilities, but I guess I am thinking to complicaded. Do I miss some sort of DPS-Simulator-Tool or a specific formula?

Thank you for your help in advance

[PheonixCain]

//EDIT: This is what my UI looks like, now. It's been working fine for me, assuming I handle the camera well. I'm stuck under the boss on leg 2, so I need to pull in tighter for that ;-; but I never have issues seeing everything. The big empty space in the bottom right is where my number stuff overlay goes.

thanks a lot, our HUD is very similar btw, guess i am gonna trim down my crossbar a bit

Best way to mitigate that I've found is reduce the size of cross hotbar UI element and shove it down as far as you're comfortable with.

agree, that's what i gonna try tonight

It looks like you aren't popping B4B on cooldown and may not be maximizing your buffs.

Also look at your Buff uptime... your HT was only up 81% of the time, mine was up close to 90%.

yeah that's what actually bothering me a lot recently, i hold back the B4B and LS sometimes before boss jump or when i was on adds, and when i realized i shud have enough time to use them, i was too late, bad judgement i think...

i will try to not hold back buffs next time and see how things go

EDIT: in A1S, my 2nd B4B usually comes before .5 shows up, and i tend to just use all the IR/BOTD/jump/spineshatter on the original, hold the B4B and LS, and elusive jump to the .5, then B4B on the .5
but yeah i will do some rework on my cd management there next time

[UBERHAXED]

Hi, I am about to start doing a lot calculations for me and my static. Everything works fine but I stuck at one point. I dont understand how you calculate a DPS-Value for a specific Gear-Set. I tried to calculate the DPS of a whole opener and failed because of thousand possibilities, but I guess I am thinking to complicaded. Do I miss some sort of DPS-Simulator-Tool or a specific formula?

Thank you for your help in advance

Might help to note that since damage numbers (and critical hits) are random, the best you can accurately do is a Potency per Second estimation (which is what the OP is based on). Anything after that is not based on skill anyway, it's based on gear.