How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[whiskeybravo]

I have run into situation that got in quarantine > war and me hammer that add > add died before i cud even landed the 4th hit on it to extend BOTD > long animation being send back to the arena > walked all the way up to the boss > lost BOTD or only had few secs left and combo faded away so i had to use GK and give up that BOTD

Should've saved SSD

The only times I've lost BotD in quarantine was the 2x GK under B4B before I got sent in. Seemed like most of the other times there was enough time to either connect with the add or get back and connect with the boss t finish the combo. Results vary of course.. And I haven't spent months in that fight like a lot of people, only a few dozen pulls or so, small sample size I guess.

Any ideas on a good couple week gearing path yet? I honestly haven't had time to look at any of the gear yet

[JackFross]

i had to use GK and give up that BOTD

The only Quarantine where this could potentially be an issue is #2, for which you should have Elusive Jump ready and a combo proc'd and ready to use on the nearest leg you can elusive toward. O: 1 and 3 spit you out pretty close to Mortal Revolution (3 also has the Elusive Jump clause - and in all my runs I have never been picked for BOTH 2 and 3 - and I've never seen a dps get picked for both of those two - it's either 1, 2, 3, 1-2, or 1-3, in my experience).


And I've been mucking around a bit with gearsets and can't settle on one set I particularly love.

The only thing that is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY in my opinion - every single Dragoon must absolutely without a doubt invest in the 220 crafted chest. Unless your group is gonna down A8S sometime soon, which seems quite unlikely, you'll definitely want it. It's more flexible than the acc/sks 230-240 and is marginally worse than the 240 Lore chest, both fully melded.


AAAAAND. Until we see an A7S clear that *fingers crossed* drops a Gobdip, we need to be operating under the assumption that it's gonna be 220 from Sephirot -> 230 from (A6S please?) 7 weeks -> 240/245 from A8S, which, while super shitty, means that dps check is a LOT tighter, since we can't have 240 weapons going into it. We're stuck with 230 at best. That's a pretty substantial difference in terms of dps capacity.

[Erys]

For those fellow dragoons that use the default HUD (I like it, keeps the center of the screen clear, lol), rejoyce in the new... amazing... magnanimous... Auto Attack Icon! Layed just above your BotD timer xD
Enjoy the patch, guys.
Good game and git gud.

[Ninjah2r]

Guys I got the new i220 headpiece today from alex midas nm. What should I meld to it? Det V or Crit V? I'm at 1085 str, 621 acc, 764 crit, and 454 unfooded. Thats why I thought of getting my det up in the first place, cause it's quite low. brionac i210 spear, atm on 2.38 gcd so yeah I'm good for now with ss too I think. (671 ss)

[Sir_Hermes]

Accuracy if you plan on savage, yours is really low, and if you don't plan on it, the don't use tier V because that's a waste

[SunnyHirose]

I don't want to alarm anyone, but calculating BiS is a bit more complicated with the melding now ^^;;

Anyway, I'm estimating ~2000 DPS at whatever BiS ends up being; if so, the SSS target for Burden of the Son (Savage) at i240 [1770 / 2000 = .885] isn't as harshly tuned as Burden of the Father (Savage) at i210 [1360 / 1490 = .913], but that could also just be the weapon damage talking.

(Hope you like farming materia, though....)

[MiniTyra]

Yup. My model estimates, in full duo-melds, 2.1k with the new Max Potions.

BiS gearring is just as easy. I simply add every possible combination of meld as a separate gear piece and run the solvers that way. It does mean I have around 100 gear pieces, rather than 24, to solve for... But meh.

Also, lol @ Crit. I don't know if you've tried to check the new weights Sunny, but Crit is hngggg

[SunnyHirose]

BiS gearring is just as easy. I simply add every possible combination of meld as a separate gear piece and run the solvers that way. It does mean I have around 100 gear pieces, rather than 24, to solve for... But meh.

Yes, I've just had a long-term case of coder's block (it's part of why I do what I do in this game). It's long past time I either made my own or adapted MrYaah's solver.

Also, lol @ Crit. I don't know if you've tried to check the new weights Sunny, but Crit is hngggg

EIGHTY EIGHT MILES PER HOURRRRR

[MiniTyra]

Yes, I've just had a long-term case of coder's block (it's part of why I do what I do in this game). It's long past time I either made my own or adapted MrYaah's solver.

I have a solver similar to MrYaah which now calculates via DPS... 1 hour in, 1300 sets calcuated and still not found out what the most optimal set is at i245 @ 720 accuracy (which is what I guess A8S accuracy will be); That's after removing "junk" melds.

Alternatively, we could use stat-weights still, but it doesn't accurately reflect the high SS/CRT build, which somehow turned out give the highest DPS contributions in both your Excel Model, and someone elses. Most of the stat-weighted sets anyway, give 1100+ CRT and 640+ SS anyway... Meh.

[whiskeybravo]

1300 sets calcuated and still not found out what the most optimal set is at i245 @ 720 accuracy .

I'm probably wrong, but, I had this thought.. Every piece of raid gear is going to have more secondary stats then what we are able to meld. Like, at most we can add is 24 stat points since no overmelds. Would it be better to take, 216 acc off the target acc and just calculate the highest dps set with full acc melds? I don't know, just a thought I had since typically we've always wanted to take the highest weighted pieces and kinda fill acc in where necessary.

It sounds too goofy to be a good idea but almost makes sense to me lol. It may just not be a viable progression idea tho, since raiding is like a box a chocolates..

Just messing around:
Midan spear http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/STKE
Slipstream spear http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/STKI