Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[DPZ2]

You get Enochain at 56.

It's one button every minute.

It's a 30second buff.

It's dps increase.

It was used at all until op pointed it out.

If the blm had been using it but struggling to maintain it this thread wouldn't of existed.

Thanks. I'll remember that when my BLM hits level 56. That still doesn't explain why, in Party Chat (where comments are not directed to individual players) the OP chose to insult the whole group by implying they might be a 'bot'. There was no mention of Enochian until, what, 5-10 lines into the conversation, right after the "I've played BLM at 60" card was played.

Rude is rude.

[lawlHT]

Yeah -- so why are so many people treating a 'post 60 level dungeon instance' that doesn't appear to provide any useful gear on the way to iLvl 170 as if it was end-game content that had to be played at Savage DPS levels?

More to the point, why do those people think that insulting everyone else in the group because they aren't responding to Party Chat is ok?

Better question: why are people treating 60 content like its sastasha? No one is asking for savage levels of dps. They're asking for people to respect their party members enough to actually try and put forth some effort rather than expecting everyone else to carry them all the time

[Reilyn]

Every player that calls another normal player saying they are ''bot'' should be banned.

OP didn't say they were a bot. OP asked.

[Whiteroom]

Better question: why are people treating 60 content like its sastasha? No one is asking for savage levels of dps. They're asking for people to respect their party members enough to actually try and put forth some effort rather than expecting everyone else to carry them all the time

^this

/10char

Every player that calls another normal player saying they are ''bot'' should be banned. When you talk to a gamer that he is a bot is that the first worst ofense that he can get. The second is when you call a player of ''noob/newbie. So you start the ofense he was just defendig his self.So the BLM is the angel of the history for me.

If someone is playing so sub par, that they are mistaken for a bot, the only ones that should be offended are the party they are paired with.(maybe by your logic, the accused should be banned.) Also go read the OP again, the BLM wasn't the one defending themselves, the tank was the one to get their panties in a bunch.

[YeaniNah]

Just reading all the post i hope its not the same way in low level dungeon ... leveling my Mech to 60 for my gear and going in dungeon from the lowest to the highest passing by primal to learn the fight and technic but seing that ..i wonder if ill be kick out cos im 60 and i should know all tecnic ...fate and lvl is pretty easy and no need of technic compare to dungeon when i was tank. fate is free for all leveling. I hope there still good people letting other learn their class in dungeon to prepare for high level dungeon or raid.

[DPZ2]

They're asking for people to respect their party members enough to actually try and put forth some effort rather than expecting everyone else to carry them all the time

hello?
is anyone there?
is this a bot?
- OP

Where in this set of party chat text does the OP indicate that it might be a good idea to use Enochian? Where, in this set of party chat text, does the OP indicate they 'respect' the other players enough to want them to improve?

Do you really believe that the pre-level-56 BLM rotation is not 'putting forth effort' in this particular instance?

Did the OP indicate they were "carrying" the group in the first post? Anywhere?

Lot of assumptions from those first three lines ...

[Reilyn]

OP chose to insult the whole group by implying they might be a 'bot'.

He asked a yes or no question if the person is or isn't a bot. You don't know what he implied by it. If someone chose to be offended by it, that really isn't his fault.

There was no mention of Enochian until, what, 5-10 lines into the conversation

It was the second thing the OP said. 'Why are you not using enochian?'.

right after the "I've played BLM at 60" card was played.

No, OP mentioned enochian before he said he had BLM at 60.

He only played the "I have BLM at 60" card because he was asked a question aimed at his qualifications to teach someone to dps, so he answered.

Stop posting if you're not going to read.

[lawlHT]

hello?
is anyone there?
is this a bot?
- OP

Where in this set of party chat text does the OP indicate that it might be a good idea to use Enochian? Where, in this set of party chat text, does the OP indicate they 'respect' the other players enough to want them to improve?

Do you really believe that the pre-level-56 BLM rotation is not 'putting forth effort' in this particular instance?

Did the OP indicate they were "carrying" the group in the first post? Anywhere?

Lot of assumptions from those first three lines ...

The quote continues past those three lines hth

[DPZ2]

If someone is playing so sub par, that they are mistaken for a bot, the only ones that should be offended are the party they are paired with.(maybe by your logic, the accused should be banned.) Also go read the OP again, the BLM wasn't the one defending themselves, the tank was the one to get their panties in a bunch.

Sorry, but the first three lines from the OP were meant to be plain rude and are not excused by "I was trying to help".

Where you got '... playing so sub par' from, I don't know, as all I got from the rest of the OP was "I can't believe I got kicked for my behavior" and "my soul hurts when I can't lead other players to the light with regard to the use of Enochian".

By the way, what is your definition of 'so sub par, that they are mistaken for a bot'?

Have you ever met a bot in a level 60 instance? There are a lot easier ways for bots to produce gil.

[Reilyn]

Just reading all the post i hope its not the same way in low level dungeon ... leveling my Mech to 60 for my gear and going in dungeon from the lowest to the highest passing by primal to learn the fight and technic but seing that ..i wonder if ill be kick out cos im 60 and i should know all tecnic ...fate and lvl is pretty easy and no need of technic compare to dungeon when i was tank. fate is free for all leveling. I hope there still good people letting other learn their class in dungeon to prepare for high level dungeon or raid.

You have nothing to be afraid of as long as you try your best, are able to take constructive criticism, and not throw a fit/get defensive if someone asks you "why aren't you using X?"

It's all about how you handle it.