Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[PArcher]

I was NIN since ROG released, and was Lv50 a few days after that. There is no info in-game about Oboro having a Lv50 quest when Heavensward released. Fortunately, I read the patch notes.

Its a common-sense thing to understand that level cap increase = new skills. If they're not in your actions tab, they must be tied to your job...which means quests.

[TheUltimateSeph]

Its a common-sense thing to understand that level cap increase = new skills. If they're not in your actions tab, they must be tied to your job...which means quests.

Maybe to you? This game shares a server with PSN and many people who play have never played an MMO before. I'm not saying it's just the Playstation crowd either, lots of people who play on PC are new to MMOs too. That said, I think there being no in-game info about new job quests is a totally valid excuse for not doing them as you don't know they exist. It's not common-sense.

Edit: I'm not going to go through and read the massive wall of scrolling text that is the patch notes in it's entirety every single freaking patch. That's the last thing I want to do right after a patch anyway, I want to dive in and start experiencing all the cool new stuff.

[PArcher]

Maybe to you? This game shares a server with PSN and many people who play have never played an MMO before. I'm not saying it's just the Playstation crowd either, lots of people who play on PC are new to MMOs too. That said, I think there being no in-game info about new job quests is a totally valid excuse for not doing them as you don't know they exist. It's not common-sense.

Hi, PS4 player here, playing my first real MMO. Your excuse again...?

[TheUltimateSeph]

Hi, PS4 player here, playing my first real MMO. Your excuse again...?

I'm not saying it's just the Playstation crowd either, lots of people who play on PC are new to MMOs too.

Not everyone thinks the same.

[PArcher]

I'm not saying it's just the Playstation crowd either, lots of people who play on PC are new to MMOs too.

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Unfortunately, I'm looking down at you in your nice deep hole. You may want to stop digging or you'll lose the little light you can see.

[TheUltimateSeph]

Unfortunately, I'm looking down at you in your nice deep hole. You may want to stop digging or you'll lose the little light you can see.

Let's look at the facts shall we? Prior to HW release player has completed all their job quests. After HW release there is no in-game notification of new job quests for the player to do. Player continues with their MSQ and does not read patch notes because it is not mandatory and are busy having fun with the new story. Player is in the mindset that this is a game and not a job and is not thinking like one of the hardcore elitists (Oh I better go research all this stuff that just got released in case I miss something totally vital to my game life and therefore become complete trash) Player is then politely informed when they reach end game and no longer have MSQ to work on that they have new job quests for awesome new skills and should go check them out. Player is grateful and does so, learns to use new job skills and the world continues to spin. Sorry all I see in you right now is an elitist who thinks everyone should automatically know things about the game based on some innate knowledge and research everything about the game whenever new patches are released. I stand by everything I have said here, and will only admit I could have said some of it nicer. Have a nice day/

[AnaviAnael]

Let's look at the facts shall we? Prior to HW release player has completed all their job quests. After HW release there is no in-game notification of new job quests for the player to do.

But, I gotta ask, didn't it strike you as odd when you got to about 54-55 and you hadn't learned anything new? I can understand not knowing for a few levels, but after a certain point I'd be wondering if I was missing something. Even when leveling 1-50 we got class/job quests every 5 levels.

[RiceisNice]

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You keep saying elitist, but I really don't think you know how to use that word because that really has nothing in relation to what people are expecting out of others. It's not elitist to expect people to know that they get new skills as they level, that's absolutely outrageous.

[Frederick22]

Sorry all I see in you right now is an elitist who thinks everyone should automatically know things about the game based on some innate knowledge and research everything about the game whenever new patches are released. I stand by everything I have said here, and will only admit I could have said some of it nicer

You wont believe how many times I hear/read this excuse.

[Radacci]

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Dude...if you got to lv 50, and done your job quests, you'd know you get your new skills from job quests; It would have been common sense to go see your class/job trainer.....or you could have done the unthinkable, and....ask someone...if there's new skills?
don't blame other people for your failings. what did you expect, to get a pop-up message upon log-in, to go see trainer? if there's new quests, you see them on the map - that's your notification.
it's your own fault for having tunnel vision, and missing that there's new skills, during your entire run from 50-60.