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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    That wiki link is not relevant to the question, finishing content faster does reward you. Say you're farming Alexander 1 for the Anima, you need to do it 200 times, do it once every 5 minutes and you'll get that done very quickly which is the reward, do it at 10 minutes each and it's going to take double the time to complete. Is reaching your goal faster and spending less time not a reward?
    The link is completely relevant because that's what circular reasoning is. It's taking the point you're trying to prove, and using it as an initial premise. You're explaining how going faster is letting you reach your reward faster. You can come up with all kinds of examples of how going faster is faster, but that doesn't link it to being rewarding except by your having simply assumed that faster is rewarding. Since that was the point you (and Andrea, and several other people at various points earlier in the thread) were trying to prove, assuming it like that destroys the argument due to the circular reasoning it creates.

    If someone can come up with an argument that doesn't simply amount to "going faster is faster" or "going faster gets it done in less time" or "going faster means you don't have to spend as much time on it" or any other variations that are all exact equivalents of "going faster is faster", then maybe they'll have a point worth considering.

    a: "Going faster is rewarding."
    b: "why is it rewarding?"
    a: "because it's faster."

    The logic loophole there is so glaringly obvious I find it hard to understand how so many people could fail to see it.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 01-09-2016 at 05:55 PM.