The arrogance of some people

[EA9Sol]

*sigh* If you like healing and dpsing in a dungeon that's good for you. Don't go around saying what you do HAS to by done be everyone. I' don't dps in dungeons very often because the dps has already killed everything before I could even get one spell off. I heal and dps because it's my personal preference and I do get bored when not doing anything.

Hells, I've ran dungeons with healer who dps and those that don't. It's no sweat off my brow what the do as long as we get the dungeon done. Is it that really hard to understand? Many people play the way the want as long as they are doing their job or not causing the party to wipe it's all good. So, throwing out "They are lazy" is really....um, ridiculous.

Some people who play healer just want to relax so they don't dps. Others are not very confidant with their ability to do both. So forcing your personal view on someone while saying SE made it that way is lame. No, leveling a healing job and doing story quest would be hard if you didn't have any offensive skill. So, play the way you see if and they'll play the way they see fit. If it's not causing any real harm then it's not a problem.

[ScarletDawn]

I only dps when i feel that i wont be needing to burn tons of mana in the next 5 mins because DPS fail to dodge those yellow circles. I do help Aoe Dps by casting Aero 3, it takes about 700-800 mp so it is a heal that i lose for some dps. But a healer always Heals first deals damage later.

Most people also now like to mass pull with the decent gear so really your healing load goes up, not much time to dps.

Problem with dpsing as a healer is not the mana burn. But the cast time, it takes what 1-2 seconds to cast stone 3...in that time the tank could lose 2-4k hp, depending on their level of skill.

[Tint]

So, throwing out "They are lazy" is really....um, ridiculous.

that's not even ridiculous, that's "arrogant". i can't believe we are still on topic after 73 pages ^^/

[Andrea]

All this says is that going faster is faster.

I guess we just see things differently then.

I view getting a dungeon done quicker than most as a reward and can move on to doing other things.

[ScarletDawn]

I guess we just see things differently then.

I view getting a dungeon done quicker than most as a reward and can move on to doing other things.

id prefer a clean smooth run to a quick one, sure it may not break speed run records but hey its less stressful and everyone is happy....isnt that the whole idea?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

id prefer a clean smooth run to a quick one, sure it may not break speed run records but hey its less stressful and everyone is happy....isnt that the whole idea?

No, the idea is to go as fast as possible so we can spend more time grinding for tomes and relics than to take twice as long before the next new shiny comes out and we'll speed run for that as well.

[SooChe]

So, from what's going on in the thread, it is ok for tanks to not push dps or use cd because they choose to have a relaxed run? Or a dps to not optimize dps?

[Andrea]

id prefer a clean smooth run to a quick one, sure it may not break speed run records but hey its less stressful and everyone is happy....isnt that the whole idea?

Usually if a run is quick its pretty clean and smooth and if not it isn't really a quick run then really lol.

I also dont think (or I at least hope) that no one in the thread is asking for speed run records, I mostly see most asking for people not to stand around doing nothing.

[Aldora]

I only dps when i feel that i wont be needing to burn tons of mana in the next 5 mins because DPS fail to dodge those yellow circles. I do help Aoe Dps by casting Aero 3, it takes about 700-800 mp so it is a heal that i lose for some dps. But a healer always Heals first deals damage later.

Most people also now like to mass pull with the decent gear so really your healing load goes up, not much time to dps.

Problem with dpsing as a healer is not the mana burn. But the cast time, it takes what 1-2 seconds to cast stone 3...in that time the tank could lose 2-4k hp, depending on their level of skill.

On top of that, you need to switch in and out of Cleric stance for that. I've lost count how many times the tank got hit pretty hard when i just entered Cleric stance and i'll take another 2 seconds before you can take it off again.

[Alahra]

So, from what's going on in the thread, it is ok for tanks to not push dps or use cd because they choose to have a relaxed run? Or a dps to not optimize dps?

In 4-mans, sure. As long as a tank is rotating his abilities and keeping threat, I don't mind if he's not doing his utmost to push DPS. I don't even mind if DPS don't. In my experience, very few DPS use their cooldowns as they come up in 4-mans, instead opting to save them for bosses, excepting those that are best used for AoE (like Invigorate). I do prefer for DPS to know their basic rotation/priorities and to maintain those as appropriate, but I don't expect raid-quality play from anyone in dungeons, as they aren't raid-level content.