you guys went overboard with this new relic

[zemogFC]

My only issue is the fact after the huge grind it's only a 210 weapon.
When 3.2 drops in February, you know you're going to be able to exchange the mhachi farthing for a gobdip. I can't stomach the fact that I would spent so much time in Alex and millions of gil for a 210 weapon and another 210 weapon is just going to be dropped in the player bases lap.
Relics should at least be i215 after the phase 3 grind to make it worthwhile.

[Ethalio]

While I'm reading all these posts I'm glad I can always log in to FFXI and use my Mythic 119 with the knowledge: I can use this weapon for the rest of my FFXI career.

On topic: I never understood why people grind all these dungeons while there is absolutely no variety in dungeon design. The only thing that changes is the graphics and slightly the mechanics of the bosses, but the fights can all be described as 'just evade stuff and deal damage/heal/tank'. I'd really wish for more open world content and more difficult fights like Thordan Ex. I've done the new expert roulette dungeons exactly once.

Why not add a special kind of zones/raids/dungeons for the new weapons with all kind of stuff like (hard) boss fights, grinding normal mobs for drops that are needed for the upgrade, special materials gathered exclusively in that zone and/or dropped by bosses. There are so many possible ways of doing this, I wouldn't even care if the zones are copy/paste areas like in XI as long as the content itself has variety and is fun to do. Even Dynamis is/was way better than this.

[RyuDragnier]

I can do the grind part. I refuse to do the crafting part which is the POS part of this. I hope SE sees this and fixes it.

Agreed. 4 of each item is too much. Hell, 1 of each item would make a bunch of us go "Again? Ugh...but at least it's not much." I seriously worry about the devs if they thought this was a good idea. They should have just released a full set of i190 crafted gear if they want to make crafters relevant again. I still remember back when people used the crafted gear for all of Coil, it was that good.

[Starbirth]

Why not add a special kind of zones/raids/dungeons for the new weapons with all kind of stuff like (hard) boss fights, grinding normal mobs for drops that are needed for the upgrade, special materials gathered exclusively in that zone and/or dropped by bosses. There are so many possible ways of doing this, I wouldn't even care if the zones are copy/paste areas like in XI as long as the content itself has variety and is fun to do. Even Dynamis is/was way better than this.

Creating new content for the relic on top of what they do now is asking for the impossible. Implementing it into existing or along side new content in a patch is the only possible way for them to do this, but they seem to be in a nasty habit of releasing the relic all by itself in a patch so it has to reuse old content that people have played to death. The reason they do this is to keep people subbed.

We all have our personal reasons as to why we don't like a certain part of this; mine is I detest Alex for my own reasons, but I think the problem that sums it up for most is the lack of creativity and not the amount of work. IMHO I think they should have just released the first 2 parts and then incorporated the 3rd step into 3.2 content as an i220 weapon. That way the content would have had higher quality and we might have gotten something a bit better to keep the rage at bay in 3.15.

[Yonanja]

Wait... on top of what they do now? You do realise that content have been very sparse so far, right?

[Starbirth]

Wait... on top of what they do now? You do realise that content have been very sparse so far, right?

Mostly because the dev team is exhausted and working on 3.2.

[Madjames]

Mostly because the dev team is exhausted and working on 3.2.

That is no excuse to give us this crap. Making it require any sort of crafting is a slap in the face for those who do not craft, period.

[Conando]

Especially when you consider that this "exhausted team" still put in the code for these 4 HQ items and their 1 specialty item required for each too. Seems more like a case of being jerks rather than being tired when the 20 token grind was enough.

[Houston009]

My only issue is the fact after the huge grind it's only a 210 weapon.
When 3.2 drops in February, you know you're going to be able to exchange the mhachi farthing for a gobdip. I can't stomach the fact that I would spent so much time in Alex and millions of gil for a 210 weapon and another 210 weapon is just going to be dropped in the player bases lap.
Relics should at least be i215 after the phase 3 grind to make it worthwhile.

I suppose I should be complaining that people who have never touched A4S are getting handed an i210 weapon by doing /faceroll content?

[Madjames]

I suppose I should be complaining that people who have never touched A4S are getting handed an i210 weapon by doing /faceroll content?

No content in this game is hard. Once you learn the script you should be able to get through it with no hassle.

Also, why does it matter what Ilevel someone else has? The point of doing the so called "hard" content is to have fun with your raid group and fight "challenging" fights, not how much epeen you can throw around with your Ilevel.