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  1. #1181
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    Butcherboy's Avatar
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I like Ossom opener when it was introduced it was easy to grasp from a dummy and real fight applications but at ilvl 196 1325 sustain and 1.6k burst was the most I can do and I couldn't seem to break past that. I do everything right. I even made a video using my ps4 just need to figure out how I can extract that and post it here. But I just couldn't break past those numbers, and then a YouTube vid was posted ilvl 197 monk spike at 1.8k and 1400+ sustain using the old 3.0 opener, that's why I went back. I get better parse with the 3.0 opener, and I was hitting much higher number. Food POT no MS.
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  2. #1182
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Galdous View Post
    I just want to not have to meditate x5 between pulls. Should not have to maxi it to prevent carpel.
    Yeah, the whole chakra thing needing 5 lvls seems unneeded. It would perhaps make more sense if not all of the actions took lvl 5 to do(or if they worked like stacks, taking some away for certain moves). That would need more actions though. (Wasn't chakra supposed to be a way to maintain greased lightning?)

    Anyway, and I'm sure this isn't new, but I've been using tornado kick as a way to finish off the last mob in certain packs or a boss. Or if greased lightning can't be saved. For a move that is situational, it sure feels creative finding ways to use it.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 11-26-2015 at 12:09 AM.

  3. #1183
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    Cococai's Avatar
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    Cai Mathis
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    Midgardsormr
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    I like Ossom opener when it was introduced it was easy to grasp from a dummy and real fight applications but at ilvl 196 1325 sustain and 1.6k burst was the most I can do and I couldn't seem to break past that. I do everything right. I even made a video using my ps4 just need to figure out how I can extract that and post it here. But I just couldn't break past those numbers, and then a YouTube vid was posted ilvl 197 monk spike at 1.8k and 1400+ sustain using the old 3.0 opener, that's why I went back. I get better parse with the 3.0 opener, and I was hitting much higher number. Food POT no MS.
    Just 1 question, why are you still on i196? your numbers are fine just your ilvl isnt.
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  4. #1184
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    Butcherboy's Avatar
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    I'm ilvl 201. I'm just making an example of why I change rotation.
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  5. #1185
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    Almalexia's Avatar
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Popping all of your buffs before you even have GL3, Twin Snakes, and Dragon Kick up is just. Why do you guys do this?
    On Thordan EX, for example, you can reuse IR just after Ancient Quaga when you use IR in time with the graphic above.

    Is there more value in buff frequency or buff stacking?
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  6. #1186
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    Ossom's Avatar
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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    On Thordan EX, for example, you can reuse IR just after Ancient Quaga when you use IR in time with the graphic above.

    Is there more value in buff frequency or buff stacking?
    Not sure actually. But IR is your strongest buff, if you can get that off more often then I say go for it.

    @Buterchboy, Not sure why that is, you would probably have a higher burst if you pop all your buffs immediately, but that's just simple math, you are doing all of your dmg at the start, so your burst will be higher, but it won't be sustained as long. I'm really weary of your 1.4k Sustained Number though at 197, as I'm not sure if that is actually possible. Do you have a link I can look at?

    I don't see how you would gain more dps besides getting your CDs up quicker, but you're saying you do 100 more dps by being about to get maybe one more Shoulder Tackle, Exlier Drive and Howling Peak off during the entirety of a fight? I don't see it.
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  7. #1187
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    CGMidlander's Avatar
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    I made something for a friend, maybe useful here.


    Changes: Twin before DK, because DK and Twin bring 10% damage, and DK has 10 potency more than Twin, then is better to use Twin before DK.
    TS falls off before the next reapplication if you follow that order. (assuming 2.00s GCD. I have 2.06s at 526skspd w/ GL3, fwiw)
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  8. #1188
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Ok here's the YouTube vid that I watched that made just go back the 3.0 rotation.
    https://youtu.be/WpH-GlngAu4
    whEn you guys introduced the new rotation in the front page I went with that one. But as I Said I just couldn't get the same numbers as in that vid, so that's why I went back.

    Here another one ilvl 205 with SP at the end of EF but again 3.0 rotation being use.
    https://youtu.be/dHs8mcq8hsQ....

    Ps. I'm not starting any fight, is just that u guys do theory crafting and I don't so usually I just fallow what works. But so far I haven't seen any of the 3.07 rotation in action yet that surpass those numbers.
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  9. #1189
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    monchkinz's Avatar
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    Enma Hellbringer
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    Sephirot
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Hi guys, updated the guide and added Thordon EX. Hope it helps new monks in the fight. GL to you all. (get it? GL to you all? Grease Lightning to you all? no? okay....)
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  10. #1190
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by monchkinz View Post
    Hi guys, updated the guide and added Thordon EX. Hope it helps new monks in the fight. GL to you all. (get it? GL to you all? Grease Lightning to you all? no? okay....)
    While you are updating go ahead and throw in the updated weights that Dervy has come up with.

    WD: 10.714
    STR: 1.000
    DET: 0.139
    CRT: 0.167
    SS: 0.116
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