Thread: Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

As for examples in A1, I'll list a few:

1st set of Alarums: Elixir #2 (Delayed) + Howling #1 (Delayed). Doing this frees up the person tagging the adds from having to cast or use additional skills executing them. Probably 2-3 GCDs worth. If your party all focused on the boss as you're advocating, this could be the difference between the tagger getting mini'd or not as well.

Split: If you delayed Elixir #2 for the adds, #3 will line up with BFB when Oppressor splits into 2. If your tank keeps the boss north, the 0.5 and original will intersect, allowing you to tag both with a buffed Elixir Field. (This same strategy applies to SCH/SMN bane, Geirskogul, Decimate, etc and is extremely potent).

2nd + 3rd set of Alarums: If the DPS attacking the boss with you is a melee or a really nice ranged, you can have them tag their add with 1 GCD (preferably a DoT), then stack at a predetermined bait spot where you would then use your Elixir + Howling to nuke both your add and theirs as well as the boss. Just these 2 skills alone will get both adds down to ~30% which is basically the equivalent of saving you & your partner 2-3 GCDs which can now be expended on the boss. Even more importantly is, if they managed to DoT it, they can now continue their rotation on the boss & kite the add to its death without breaking continuity (think of Dragon Kick/Disembowel/Dancing Edge not falling off) which is a pretty substantial gain.

Brief comparison of 5 minute runs:

MNK who delayed OGCDs for maximizing DPS:
8 Elixir Field casts, 14 targets hit, 36,000 damage total
4 Howling Fist casts, 9 targets hit, 17,8000 damage total

MNK who spammed OGCDs on CD:
8 Elixir Field casts, 10 targets hit, 21,300 damage total (~40+ DPS less than the MNK who delayed)
4 Howling Fist casts, 4 targets hit, 7,500 damage total (~20+ DPS less than the MNK who delayed)

As you can see, both Monks received an equal number of uses and all uses hit the boss. The only difference was, the guy who delayed his OGCDs to hit adds inadvertently helped out his raid members (less damage spent on adds is more damage on the boss) while also boosting his own individual DPS.

Originally Posted by valsemiel

Brief comparison of 5 minute runs:

MNK who delayed OGCDs for maximizing DPS:
8 Elixir Field casts, 14 targets hit, 36,000 damage total
4 Howling Fist casts, 9 targets hit, 17,8000 damage total

MNK who spammed OGCDs on CD:
8 Elixir Field casts, 10 targets hit, 21,300 damage total (~40+ DPS less than the MNK who delayed)
4 Howling Fist casts, 4 targets hit, 7,500 damage total (~20+ DPS less than the MNK who delayed)

As you can see, both Monks received an equal number of uses and all uses hit the boss. The only difference was, the guy who delayed his OGCDs to hit adds inadvertently helped out his raid members (less damage spent on adds is more damage on the boss) while also boosting his own individual DPS.

makes sense. i'll try it out

Also, for any nerds like me who like looking at this stuff. Here's a 1513 MNK parse in A3S. It's basically full mastery of Momo Ten's strategies (same Opener, RB adds, TK > PB) and being augmented by a shit ton of Diadem gear (797 Crit, 657 Det, 615 SkS). Still really impressive though. I always knew MNKs had the potential to outdo BLMs there (it currently beats the highest non-AST BLM parse by around 10).

NIN also looks to be magnitudes above DRG for a MNK's personal DPS. Some of his bursts during the Trick Attack + Hypercharge combo are crazy high and Goad is really a lifesaver for both you and your BRD/MCH- perhaps even negating or dampening the blow of having no Disembowel by lowering the amount of Paeon/Promotion played. It makes me question whether the MNK/MNK/NIN/MCH or MNK/DRG/NIN/MCH meta will come into play next tier after the Chinese group used it to great effect in their i190 A4S kill as well as Lucrezia in their A3S speed kill to an extent (MNK, NIN, MCH, BLM). Barring any obvious benefit of a caster (LB3, physical damage invulnerability/resistance, or spatial restrictions), I honestly think this is one of the better compositions which groups unfortunately do not build around. I think if the MCH buffs are good enough, we'll start to see more diverse lineups rather than the current gold standard of DRG, NIN, BRD, BLM.

Originally Posted by Ossom

I think the biggest thing that will be good for MNKs is the PLD buff. If PLD/WAR becomes a good go to for Midas then a Mnk will be a good addition for Dragon Kick, since there is no delirium.

This has been something I've been looking forward too. Cus you know when PLD's actually become viable and required, DRK will be on the sidelines instead and that's when MNK can go "Hey, you miss me?"

Originally Posted by valsemiel

Also, Ossom this is completely unrelated to MNKs but would it be possible to have your static BLM, Count Brusef, respond to the questions in the Black Mage Sanctuary thread starting on page 108? People are really mind blown at the things he's able to do ATM so having the man himself speak could really clear things up.

Sorry man as far as I know he's just a good player. Also you guys shouldn't be witch hunting a player down on the official forums.

Oh reread this, I can try and ask him I guess.

I'm all for protecting ya peoples, but everyone following the situation, including the dev team who found out from reddit thread, knows what's up at this point. They mentioned it in the japanese version of duty commenced. We all know it's not just being a good player. He doesn't even need to say anything at this point.