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  1. #1171
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    Zamii's Avatar
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenMonk View Post
    Hey, I'm having a hard time finding a nice burst for my opener in A3S. DM>PB>SP>B4B>SP>IR>DK>POT>Twin>Steel Peak>BS>EF>TS>HF>DM>FC>DK.
    My dps at the end of phase one could not break 1400. There must be something I'm doing wrong fundamentally.
    if this is your true opener for A3, then your extremely delayed between your actions, since your only using 4 GCD under PB, rather than the 5 you should get, although this is probably just a mistype.

    however, given your gear its not that bad if your not running with supporting buffs (selene, littany, etc)

    the only other thing that comes to mind is if your not hitting the boss immediately when the boss is pulled, then your dps will appear quite low.
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  2. #1172
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    CGMidlander's Avatar
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenMonk View Post
    Hey, I'm having a hard time finding a nice burst for my opener in A3S. DM>PB>SP>B4B>SP>IR>DK>POT>Twin>Steel Peak>BS>EF>TS>HF>DM>FC>DK.
    My dps at the end of phase one could not break 1400. There must be something I'm doing wrong fundamentally.
    -I think you're missing a Snap Punch in there before your Bootshine?

    -Use Elixir Field before Steel Peak (It's a higher pps loss to withhold EF than it is to withhold SP)

    -I don't see ToD in there. If you do start using ToD, don't apply ToD more than once for the first phase of A3S. The second application won't have enough time to tick to be worthwhile.

    Also, since the first phase is short, crit percentage can be a big factor too. If you have a crappy crit percentage, you'll end up with lower DPS. (This is RNG)
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  3. #1173
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenMonk View Post
    Hey, I'm having a hard time finding a nice burst for my opener in A3S. DM>PB>SP>B4B>SP>IR>DK>POT>Twin>Steel Peak>BS>EF>TS>HF>DM>FC>DK.
    My dps at the end of phase one could not break 1400. There must be something I'm doing wrong fundamentally.
    Your opener:DM>PB>SP>B4B>SP>IR>DK>POT>Twin>Steel Peak>BS>EF>TS>HF>DM>FC>DK.

    My personal opener:DM>PB>SP>B4B>SP>IR>Twin>POT>DK>EF>SP>HF>ToD>FC>BS>Steel Peak>TS>Should Tackle>DM>DK.

    I made something for a friend, maybe useful here.


    Changes: Twin before DK, because DK and Twin bring 10% damage, and DK has 10 potency more than Twin, then is better to use Twin before DK.
    Elixir Field, FC, HF, Steel Peak and Shoulder Tackel should be inside of Trick Attack if You have Ninja, if not, it does not care, but with Ninja in party make sure you are using EF, FC and HF while Trick Attack is up, this skills have a lot of potency.
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    Last edited by Greywolfamakir; 11-25-2015 at 11:15 AM.

  4. #1174
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    Ossom Possom
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    Armorer Lv 53
    Popping all of your buffs before you even have GL3, Twin Snakes, and Dragon Kick up is just. Why do you guys do this?
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  5. #1175
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    Laekhiya Ghenna
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Popping all of your buffs before you even have GL3, Twin Snakes, and Dragon Kick up is just. Why do you guys do this?
    Goon popped Litany the second he tickled the boss that's why.
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  6. #1176
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    Cryss Cook
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    Cerberus
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by PFM View Post
    Goon popped Litany the second he tickled the boss that's why.
    So in order to make the fact that one of the buffs (BL) has a suboptimal timing for your job even worse, you decided to pop all your stuff at that time too? ^^

    Sarcasm was intentional here lol. But pls think about it. Also GL3 + TwS + DK is a metric crap ton stronger than BL.
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  7. #1177
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    If we're talking about pps would it be better to do ST before HF and steel peak before HF? Meaning get your lowest recast Gdc out first so that they are back up again as Deon as possible? But for opener I do DM PB SP bfb SP ir DK pot TS EF SP st BS peak TRUE hf DM fc FRACTURE.
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    Last edited by Butcherboy; 11-25-2015 at 06:39 PM.

  8. #1178
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    If we're talking about pps would it be better to do ST before HF and steel peak before HF? Meaning get your lowest recast Gdc out first so that they are back up again as Deon as possible? But for opener I do DM PB SP bfb SP ir DK pot TS EF SP st BS peak TRUE hf DM fc FRACTURE.
    EF, Shoulder Tackle, Steel Peak, HF and FC must be used when Trick Attack or Battle Litany are up if You have NIN with next order:

    Trick Attack > FC > EF > HF > Steel Peak > Shoulder Tackle

    Just use the highest potency skills during Trick Attack or Battle Litany.
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    Last edited by Greywolfamakir; 11-25-2015 at 07:41 PM.

  9. #1179
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
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    Ok that makes sense.
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  10. #1180
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    Lilyth Chan
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I agree with Ossom ^^

    Popping buffs too early means you will be missing a few *fully* buffed GCD where you would be doing your absolute highest damage. Prolonging this "fully buffed" phase is essencial for a high bursting opener.
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