Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

[Penguin]

while im not saying it doesn't have its merits, your group does still buff your damage by allowing you to avoid most of the mechanics of the fight from what i can tell of fflogs, for example you don't fight the adds that spawn outside of quarantine, and you have no extra responsibilities such as stunning the legs for perpetual ray.
i could probably speculate further and say your group handles the lazers for you so you almost never have to move for them, or that the mch is in fact playing TP solely for you, and theres probably a few other things that could be done as well, but in the end it doesn't really matter.

anyway, my point is while you may not intentionally be trying as a group to buff your dps, the fact of the matter is it is still happening on a partial scale, and other monks that are feeling discouraged by not being able to match the dps should keep this in mind.

Our strat has both melee stick to the boss 100% yeah but its not only the monk but also the ninja/dragoon aswell, we have the offtank doing a doll with the 2 ranged because it just seemed to make more sense to us, and until the last patch the only reason so much TP was played was because of the ninja who generally ran out of TP way before i did, so why would i use purification instead of Forbidden if i don't actually need the TP since TP song was being played for someone else in my party.

I don't really get why its so strange to you that we would minimize melee dps downtime when its a raid dps gain to keep them on the boss, if me disconnecting and getting tethers across the other side of the room, or getting discoid balls across the other side of the room or even me doing a doll was more beneficial for the entire group do you not think we would be using that strat?

You can speculate all you like about me and my FC but i would prefer you or anyone else not insult my FC members especially if you are just speculating on the reasons why we do things the way we do.

[Zamii]

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You can speculate all you like about me and my FC but i would prefer you or anyone else not insult my FC members especially if you are just speculating on the reasons why we do things the way we do.

sorry it wasn't meant to be insulting, i was merely stating that the method your group uses is better for the melee than what most groups allow, like i said before, your methods are not without there merits, i have no doubt the gain for the entire group is there in doing so.

[Butcherboy]

IM so happy I got a 210 pants with 91 crit and 57 SS. It's better than 210 eso pants

[Greywolfamakir]

sorry it wasn't meant to be insulting, i was merely stating that the method your group uses is better for the melee than what most groups allow, like i said before, your methods are not without there merits, i have no doubt the gain for the entire group is there in doing so.

I play like MCH in A4S and It's easy to do mechanics because both melee of my party are doing FULL DPS on boss, I mean, A4S does not demand everyone to be part of mechanics like A3S, with this in mind You can keep the highest DPS jobs on boss, like melees are currently. If You play like BRD/BLM/SMN/MCH you can focus on mechanics and drop a bit your DPS because your DRG/NIN/MNK are killing the boss. Melee can be solidary and help with Carnage or Discoid, but It's not the most efficient way for PARTY.

You can speculate all you like about me and my FC but i would prefer you or anyone else not insult my FC members especially if you are just speculating on the reasons why we do things the way we do.

No one is insulting You or your FC I think.

[Phireblast]

IM so happy I got a 210 pants with 91 crit and 57 SS. It's better than 210 eso pants

Thanks Diadem for removing 2 weeks of effort all of the cost of 90 minutes.

lol

[valsemiel]

Sorry . When I posed this question, I didn't intend to call anyone out on their personal playstyles or preferences. Rather, I was curious as to how one could overlook Purification entirely in favor of 5 Forbidden Chakras; be it through tiny rotational adjustments or different Invigoration timings (i.e. delaying till Leg 3 as Tyrith mentioned). However, as others have suggested, I believe this is made possible by the support of an attentive BRD/MCH.

As far as I know, the ideal junctures to play Paeon/Promotion are during the leg shatters / Mortal Revolution which is a 6+ second window of downtime. As for the rest of the time, I cannot say. Personally, I request it at 2 other points:

• After Leg 4 is shattered until the MCH sacs for 1st Pentacle. (Usually enter final phase < 500 TP with Invigorate on CD).

• After MCH is resurrected with LB3. Full bar + Hypercharge. (DRG needs it here as well, not sure if a full bar or Hypercharge are necessary)

[valsemiel]

If any other MNKs could chime in on ideal times to request TP (if at all) or if I'm overburdening my MCH by not using Purification 2-3 times it would be very much appreciated. Thanks~

[Hakmatic]

I just said there was a lot of Tp played (and that can't be denied) I have full faith Mr penguin is just doing what melees do best, dps.

[EmberLuna]

If any other MNKs could chime in on ideal times to request TP (if at all) or if I'm overburdening my MCH by not using Purification 2-3 times it would be very much appreciated. Thanks~

Our MCH plays about a 1/3 an MP bar of TP on the fourth leg, in addition to the Promotion during the leg shatter/Mortal Rev.
This typically puts us over 500 going into the last phase, even if you don't get Quarantined, with an Invig soon coming up.

[ForbiddenMonk]

Hey, I'm having a hard time finding a nice burst for my opener in A3S. DM>PB>SP>B4B>SP>IR>DK>POT>Twin>Steel Peak>BS>EF>TS>HF>DM>FC>DK.
My dps at the end of phase one could not break 1400. There must be something I'm doing wrong fundamentally.