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  1. #1151
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    Zamii's Avatar
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    Oh I went a little dry before popping my last invig. I just feel 4 mins is a good dummy number.
    while i agree 4 min is nice, doesnt it kinda defeat the purpose of checking your dps if you intentionally lower your dps?
    personally i always end my parses the moment i can no longer have the TP for another skill (which makes my blm parses get out of hand at times, lol)
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  2. #1152
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    IR and BfB have a 4m cycle. Going for super high scores is one thing (stack crit, keep trying until lucky, stop timer after major buff ends, gg), but if you're trying to tune average performance, you should be testing as close as you can to average. That means getting average use out of buffs and going as long as is reasonable. That way you have as good a basis as possible for comparing like to like.
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  3. #1153
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    Shinobu Shinobu
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Can anyone explain to me how Tyrith Peng manages to never use Purification in A4S and still incorporates 9 Fractures into his rotation like it's nothing? I run in an identical comp (no Ninja + MCH) and I find that 1 Purification is still insufficient in restoring TP as I run dry by around 2nd Pentacle. This is even after adjusting my rotation later to cut out ToD (which Tyrith Peng also spams still).
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    Last edited by valsemiel; 11-20-2015 at 11:14 PM.

  4. #1154
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Quote Originally Posted by valsemiel View Post
    Can anyone explain to me how Tyrith Peng manages to never use Purification in A4S and still use 9 Fractures like it's nothing? I run in an identical comp (no Ninja + MCH) and I find that 1 Purification is still insufficient in restoring TP as I run dry by around 2nd Pentacle. This is even after adjusting my rotation later to cut out ToD (which Tyrith Peng also spams still).
    MCH's Blue Garter use a lot Promotion his Rook Autoturret (TP regen).
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  5. #1155
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    Hak Matic
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    A lot of tp, almost plays so much it makes me think he is playing it just for the mnk, which is very selfish of your mnk(especially if there is no purfications used) or a really dumb mch.
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  6. #1156
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    Cai Mathis
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    Midgardsormr
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    I run out of TP around the same time at second pentacle. I just weave in 2 meditations per rotation before I completely run dry. Same, no nin goads no BRD tp song.
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  7. #1157
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    A lot of tp, almost plays so much it makes me think he is playing it just for the mnk, which is very selfish of your mnk(especially if there is no purfications used) or a really dumb mch.
    Or just yet another let's push one of our group at a time for the FFlogs.
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  8. #1158
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    Or just yet another let's push one of our group at a time for the FFlogs.
    something tells me thats not the case, tyreth was one of the first full i210 in the world, and to make it even better he was in BiS at the same time.
    with someone that far ahead, they could have simply thought sacrificing a little dps from the mch would have been better overall, of course i doubt it would have been, but idk how much gear the mch got.
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  9. #1159
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    Tyrith Peng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    A lot of tp, almost plays so much it makes me think he is playing it just for the mnk, which is very selfish of your mnk(especially if there is no purfications used) or a really dumb mch.
    The Tp is actually never for me, he used to play so much for the ninja because before the latest patch ninja would always run out way before i did, and im pretty sure after the patch its generally used for the DRK if we don't have a ninja, I have personally never asked for Tp to be played for myself on any of the fights (ok maybe a little on A2S) because its usually the other melee classes that are Tp starved before im even close to running out.

    I actually remember getting criticized by other monks during 2nd coil for not using fracture because i didn't think the TP cost was worth the personal dps gain so its kind of amusing to hear someone call me selfish for using it now.

    Also i cant remember if the most recent A4S parse for me had multiple quarantines but i generally always get 1 and on most of our kills got 2 which obviously cuts TP consumption pretty heavily to the point i usually don't even use an invig until the 3rd leg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    Or just yet another let's push one of our group at a time for the FFlogs.
    Honestly if that was my intention we would be running with an Astro like every other parse on FFLogs does now days, our weekly clears aren't special and aren't even us trying to push dps or speed kills, so you can think what you like but if we wanted to buff 1 monk to do as much dps as possible you could probably get close to or break 1600 on A4S.
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    Last edited by Penguin; 11-22-2015 at 02:10 PM.
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  10. #1160
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    ...

    Honestly if that was my intention we would be running with an Astro like every other parse on FFLogs does now days, our weekly clears aren't special and aren't even us trying to push dps or speed kills, so you can think what you like but if we wanted to buff 1 monk to do as much dps as possible you could probably get close to or break 1600 on A4S.
    while im not saying it doesn't have its merits, your group does still buff your damage by allowing you to avoid most of the mechanics of the fight from what i can tell of fflogs, for example you don't fight the adds that spawn outside of quarantine, and you have no extra responsibilities such as stunning the legs for perpetual ray.
    i could probably speculate further and say your group handles the lazers for you so you almost never have to move for them, or that the mch is in fact playing TP solely for you, and theres probably a few other things that could be done as well, but in the end it doesn't really matter.

    anyway, my point is while you may not intentionally be trying as a group to buff your dps, the fact of the matter is it is still happening on a partial scale, and other monks that are feeling discouraged by not being able to match the dps should keep this in mind.
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