Angry Bards

[Malevicton]

They are getting hate for their class, being kicked from parties, and generally being looked down on.

Problem is, bards are the ones hating on the class; it's not coming from the other classes. Other classes really don't care. We aren't invested in the topic. And they're only getting kicked if they refuse to acknowledge that hw happened.

The main issue with brds right now is other brds.

[RiceisNice]

Problem is, bards are the ones hating on the class; it's not coming from the other classes. Other classes really don't care. We aren't invested in the topic. And they're only getting kicked if they refuse to acknowledge that hw happened.

The main issue with brds right now is other brds.

You can add former BRDs to the list. Both MCH and BRDs fill the same niche in party compostion, I was going to level both jobs anyway, but I jumped ship entirely when WM was a damage loss until level 60, and I didn't bother leveling it until sometime after alexander came out.

[Tempted]

I've been a Bard from day 1(Typical start to this kind of topic...) and I've absolutely enjoyed it-I had to roll Bard due to lag issues as a healer, thus being a Bard rocked with the lag because I could run around and have no fear of aoes hitting me like a bullet train. With WM...

It's not as bad as everyone is making it out to be, yes you can't run and use abilities(along with a list of other disadvantages people have elaborated), I understand that's a huge issue to those that are accustomed to the previous play style...It takes getting used to(You can still use 2 abilities or so while moving!), but if you really enjoy the Bard as a whole, you'll accept WM...I still dislike it slightly, I feel as if I'm being reigned in. But hey...at least the healer has a better chance of locating us

[Velhart]

Most bards have left. It doesn't mean they quit the game, but does mean they quit the class. They are getting hate for their class, being kicked from parties, and generally being looked down on. The people who defend it are few and far in between.

I personally heal now, after saying I wouldn't use WM anymore. And I when I do dungeon runs I see one bard every.... 15-20 runs , maybe less.

The bards are quiting, but SE gets money still so they don't care. I can't wait for the next tally of who does what class, although I'm sure they'll lie on it.

I don't think anyone has been kicked out for just being a BRD. Only time I have heard of this is people refusing to use WM or their DPS is no good.

[AskaRay]

Problem is, bards are the ones hating on the class; it's not coming from the other classes. Other classes really don't care. We aren't invested in the topic. And they're only getting kicked if they refuse to acknowledge that hw happened.

The main issue with brds right now is other brds.

My problem with bards has ALWAYS been other bards, man
way before HW

#alwayssilentlyjudgingyou



Also I still don't really see this bard shortage. I see bards everywhere. Is it a lack of good raid bards? Is that the problem?
Because there is a difference between bard and good bard.

[Boss_Koivula]

Also I still don't really see this bard shortage. I see bards everywhere. Is it a lack of good raid bards? Is that the problem?
Because there is a difference between bard and good bard.

Just go and take a look at few LFG threads posted by bards. Statics out there circling those bards like sharks lol

[TiaHeart]

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If you think of the pizza diagram that went like "30 percent of players have brd 0-15 (untouched), 50 15-49 (i want crossskill), 20 50 (i play bard or max all)"
im afraid there's a huge issue with your expectation: i had bard 50, hw came out, i wanted to dive right in. So i sticked brd. He is 60 now. The same will count for most of the other bards.
SE wont make up these numbers,no need . "the bards are there" and not in little numbers i might add.
They are just dormant, abandoned, little creatures that receive less love from their owners then before.

Numbers wont show this much... Not that diagram. A number like currently 5 PFs include "static lf brd for a3s p4 progression" is another thing. And wether that is because
a) all brd mainers are idiots by nature
b) brd is still to weak (yes SE the correct course of action to take is WM 30->40 problem solved /sarcasm)
c) ppl dont like the whole deal anymore
Is yet another topic

[TiaHeart]

Also I still don't really see this bard shortage. I see bards everywhere. Is it a lack of good raid bards? Is that the problem?
Because there is a difference between bard and good bard.

I see smns and blms mainly as far dps go in pvp.
I hear absolutely non-brd players say on ls "man all these filthy mechs in my alex savage mercs, we need brds lol".
I see a bunch of pfs lookin for progression bards, like it was hip shit
(or suddenly lacked for some strange reason. This reason cannot be that many ppl played bard, it received MAJOR gameSTYLE changes, and many of those many brds abandoned them so there aren't all that many left)
Sure it's all personal perception, interpretation etc pp. We all just #dont care and #dealwithit, no problem to be adressed. And if there is one, it's THOSE horribad bards. NOT us, not me, not you, not the class, not hefty direction changes. It must be THEM. How dare they

[Atoli]

Just go and take a look at few LFG threads posted by bards. Statics out there circling those bards like sharks lol

All other classes are looking for groups too. Every single static I know ingame has a BRD in their set-up, and they do well with that. So I tend to agree with AskaRay, there is no real shortage of BRDs (I also get them in my roulettes everyday), I guess what went down was only the number of people who are good at playing BRD because they were able to accustom their playstyle.

[Maero]

Well aside from Savage there really is not any real need for Bards, the content just does not call for it. Future updates and i guess if they make changes then their will be influx again of Bards.
And let's be honest 2.X the amount of "good bards" was very low and that has not changed, lol
I actually see less Monks then anything else these days and do still see Bards. PVP is full of Bards all the time