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    xXRaineXx's Avatar
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    Raine Serafine
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    Chocobo
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    Archer Lv 70
    I'm not angry... okay just a little... I want things back the way it used to be.

    But to be completely honest, I think WM already did all the damage it can to the BRD community. People either quit, changed or just got used to it now. As for myself, I spent the last 3 months coming in terms with WM.
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    Dave Wolly
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    Yes I am an angry bard also. They made us a caster and we are not that. I fell in love with the roaming and being able to shoot while on the move. When 3.0 came out the grind was ridiculous to get to 60, so I leveled my main bard and alt monk and that was all because how they made the grind was ridiculous( In my opinion they need to adjust that also plus make more things to do to level- sorry to go off topic). I used to get on and play for 10 to 12 hours a day doing different things but how things are now I just get on to raid and get esos capped.
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    Velhart Aurion
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    I am sure they are going to say something during the Live Letter. Or maybe they are not. They are pretty good at dodging awkward questions.
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    I am sure they are going to say something during the Live Letter. Or maybe they are not. They are pretty good at dodging awkward questions.
    They usually don't do QoL/changes stuff for classes unless their performance was contingent on it. Which... isn't applicable for BRD. It's still bad enough that I would never want to pick up a bow over a gun though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    They usually don't do QoL/changes stuff for classes unless their performance was contingent on it. Which... isn't applicable for BRD. It's still bad enough that I would never want to pick up a bow over a gun though.
    Same for the most part. I am only gearing BRD now since it is good to be able to switch between the two for raiding. It feels clunky in comparison to how MCH plays. Would definitely enjoy BRD more if they made the abilities work better with WM. It works and not standing in the way of BRD being able to be competitive, but it feels unnatural compared to MCH. BRD's have been complaining since Day 1, so maybe they will respond in some fashion about it. Maybe they will get a "git gud" comment like we MCH did.
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    Kimiko Delsia
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    Culinarian Lv 60
    I got in a Alexander static, and we desperatly need a bard with our party setup. I was asked to come on bard, I said yes, and we rocked shop. However, I was struck with the realization that I don't want to use WM. I don't enjoy it, and my enjoyment is most important to me. So now I have to talk to my static and tell them "Hey, I don't mind coming on bard since we need one, but I am not going to use WM. I'm not going to hate my raid time for doing something I don't want to do."

    I rolled a bard because I wanted to be a bard, not a black mage. I also feel that SE couldn't care less. I'm sorely dissapointed in their lack of acknowledgement on this. The official forums having 3 bard threads that haunt the main page for weeks on end, and no statement on it? Do you really think so little of us, SE? Even after we came back after the 1.0 colossal screw up? I'm not demanding a rework of the class, I want the respect we all deserve. Just say something about it.
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    Tia Heart
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    Fisher Lv 60
    +1. Its less that im angry than that i just dont to play the style thats been forced on my main. Bard was a very flexible, dynamic and easy to maneuver ranged. The only one at that. Why some people think "go mech if you dont like new brd" was reasonable is beyond me. If se just wanted to implement this great range/cast-mashup so bad, why didnt they just make the mech like it :/ im sure you wouldnt like it much if i told you your blm "can" (will have to, people expect it since its cool!) cast his spells in half the time and thereby up dps -> when staying in melee range only oO the change is a lame way to deal with the problem "brd bro, u do less dmg than other dps", and i wouldve very much prefered WM to simply have the usual drawback "can not be coupled with other songs" (want me to go full dps? Fine, if you dont need foe. Need mana? Ouuuch my dps, manage it better!) instead of ... This
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    Last edited by TiaHeart; 10-21-2015 at 02:40 PM.

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    Aria Elunia
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    If a BRD can dish out the same dps and AOE dps as a BLM then you can finally compare yourself to a BLM...
    A BLM can't recovers everyone's MP and TP and also lowering magic defense, thus increasing magic DPS for the whole raid, preventing a debuff, you can't really compare yourself to BLM, I don't get it why BRD people still comparing themselves to BLM.
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    Because if you use WM you attacks get cancelled when u move. Oh, and because they get a cast time. Duh? And thats exactly the next point: even if you butcher your flexible unit towards cast, hes STILL not a as dpsy as blm or melee. Aoe is a nice word to throw in, since i loved to blitz through old ex roulette (wanderer hm) with the 3 aoe rotation free shots. Those got butchered too, yay
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    Nhai Tayuun
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriaEnia View Post
    I don't get it why BRD people still comparing themselves to BLM.
    Because..casting!!!1!!!11!O_O'

    -1 for me. I like the new BRD and I like switching between WM and no WM depending on the situation of the fight.
    Also, all the BRDs I know ingame are still BRDs AND use WM. They got used to it and now they just play their class (and do well with it). Yes, there are several complaining threads in the forums. But it's always the same people complaining there, which may mean that in the end, only a handful of BRDs actually quit their job for real and cry about it now, so SE doesn't feel the need to issue a statement in response to those few players who actually dropped the class because of the changes.
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