What is a BAD player?

[drmambo1999]

One specific one I can name off the top of my head is an Ice Mage.
BLM that only use their blizzard spells because unlimited mana.

This absolutely infuriates me as well. we BLMs have unlimited mana regardless of if we use other spells aside from blizzard, because blizzard will still fill it back up near instantly. XD They are just doing less DPS for no reason.

[Fevelle]

Anyone who rage quit after 1 wipe is bad for me. Seriously? Why did you even bother queueing then? And most times they're DPS, the role with the longest queues.

People who queue for Titan Hard and keep falling on purpose are bad.

Trolls in general.

The healer who left a party I joined on DF Brayflox NM the other day is also bad. The tank was well geared but was having problems to hold Aiatar's hate because he was handicapped. I'm happy enough to say that we stayed, me and the two DPS, altough we didn't clear it, we got Aiatar to 5% and the time ran out. I hope I find this tank again and I hope he finally found a way of playing the game.

[Noshpan]

People who queue for Titan Hard and keep falling on purpose are bad.

I will say this that if both healers are dead in Titan Hard & TEX, and there isn't a SMN (or it's obvious that the SMN isn't going to use their rez for some reason) then I will jump. No point in letting the wipe drag on longer than it needs to.

Though I once accidentally fat-fingered Elusive Jump and fell off of the platform. I almost did that on my BRD once, too. *facepalm*

[Galaktica]

Well, if I had to sum it all up, I think the cause of most, if not all bad players is a lack of empathy for their fellow player. Not giving a ****. i.e. refusing to be malleable, coming in willfully ignorant of how to play your class, not being a team player, etc. All that, at least in my opinion, fits under the umbrella of only caring about yourself and no one else.

tanks - "I'm just gonna pull whatever whenever and however I want. It's their job to keep up with me regardless of what I do."
dps - "eenie meanie minie moe...I think I'll attack this add. What? Tank is focusing on something else? Ah, who cares? I should be able to do whatever and someone else should be able to fix my mistakes!"
healer - "I don't know how enmity works so Ima just cast regen before every pull and then yell at the tank later because he can't hold aggro" or, alternatively, "ah, everyone is topped off and everything looks good for now...guess I'll sit here twiddling my thumbs"

[Fevelle]

I will say this that if both healers are dead in Titan Hard & TEX, and there isn't a SMN (or it's obvious that the SMN isn't going to use their rez for some reason) then I will jump. No point in letting the wipe drag on longer than it needs to.

Though I once accidentally fat-fingered Elusive Jump and fell off of the platform. I almost did that on my BRD once, too. *facepalm*

Everyone was alive. I was helping a BLM who was shouting for help at Limsa as a WHM, and the three machinists began jumping after they realized she was having problems to dodge things and saying "let's see how much you can dps without us babe".

The other healer quit because of that and I had to call my best friend SCH to help.
The MCHs were probably together with a tank, since the vote kick never passed.

[PotatoWafflez]

I've said this before in another thread, but I think that that's the beauty of Aurum Vale. It's the first dungeon that really, really rides on the team cooperating as...well, as a full team. Tanks have to watch how they pull and consider position and their friends, healers have to watch when they heal and where they're standing, and DPS have to do their best to kill things quickly while avoiding AoEs and staying near the healers. And of course, if people snatch each other's fruit, that simple lack of consideration can get the entire party killed.

I've had my fair share of horrid AV runs, but I love it just because it makes or breaks a team in a heartbeat.

I agree its one of my favourite dungeons because it can just go to hell so quickly and gives you lots of opportunity to push yourself to try and salvage the mess you ended up in for whatever reason.

[Ayuhra]

Me.

I research my classes, perform rotations, watch boss videos, try my best to do mechanics but a combination of a shoddy internet connection and slow old lady reflexes means I am probably going to embarrass myself at least once. I admit whenever I see someone talking about how many "lol bads" they see I frown and think "I am probably in that number".

So me. I'm a bad player. Probably.

My own definition of bad is someone who refuses to take criticism and learn from past mistakes and who is clearly not suffering from Bad Internet Syndrome. These are the people who scream at you if you point out that using Blizzard into perpetuity isn't the best way to do dps as a BLM... But I rarely run into people like this.

[Jacosta]

The only bad player, in my opinion, is someone who is rude and ugly (attitude-wise) and hides behind internet anonymity to ruin other people's experience by being an @##hole.

[drmambo1999]

Me.

I research my classes, perform rotations, watch boss videos, try my best to do mechanics but a combination of a shoddy internet connection and slow old lady reflexes means I am probably going to embarrass myself at least once. I admit whenever I see someone talking about how many "lol bads" they see I frown and think "I am probably in that number".

So me. I'm a bad player. Probably.

My own definition of bad is someone who refuses to take criticism and learn from past mistakes and who is clearly not suffering from Bad Internet Syndrome. These are the people who scream at you if you point out that using Blizzard into perpetuity isn't the best way to do dps as a BLM... But I rarely run into people like this.

Agreed completely. The fact that you admit to making mistakes says to me that you aren't a bad player. As I said in the OP, it isn't the mistakes that make a player bad, it is the refusal to correct them.

[LunaHoshino]

People who don't try and/or don't care - things that often go hand in hand. If someone is clearly trying, I'm happy to stick it out with them and offer tips where I can. But I have no patience with people who cause issues because they're lazy or they can't be assed to spend the time to figure out how to play their class at least semi-properly.