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    Blitzace's Avatar
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    And once again a very good reason why full STR is not always is in your best interest for these *elitest* people out there.

    Random PT(As i said many times before) Just a simple exp roulette. Was running full str (Healer was mix of 180/190) First pull i died. His response "Oh... you're running full dps"
    So i changed two equips from slaying to fending. Barely made the first pull. Second pull i wiped again. went full fending this time around, Nearly died again had to use HG on a trash pull. Cause Mr.healer was to busy DPSing and then continued to heal in CS instead of taking it off and give proper heals, Let not start about the fact he never used Beni not even once.

    So yes, FULL STR my ass. It all comes down to how comfortable your party is with it, And how comfortable you are with it.
    I usually run full STR or a mix. But i'm getting sick and tired of people saying there is no need for full vit or even a mix of vit/slay.

    You run with a random group and get a less-skilled healer and see how many times you'll wipe if you do big pulls.

    If a tank wants to run full fending, (As a healer) i love it. means i get more DPS time and just an overall more smooth dungeon run.
    But if he decides to go full str, No problem. So let the player decides wether he goes full str/vit mix or what ever.

    Ofcourse pre-mades PT /PF PTs are a different story.
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    Shyle Katriss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzace View Post
    Random PT(As i said many times before) Just a simple exp roulette. Was running full str (Healer was mix of 180/190) First pull i died. His response "Oh... you're running full dps"
    So i changed two equips from slaying to fending. Barely made the first pull. Second pull i wiped again. went full fending this time around, Nearly died again had to use HG on a trash pull. Cause Mr.healer was to busy DPSing and then continued to heal in CS instead of taking it off and give proper heals, Let not start about the fact he never used Beni not even once.
    Full Str isn't to blame here, the terrible healer is. Even when you said you swapped to fending, you *barely* survived first pull then second you died again. This story has nothing to do with str vs vit, it's just simply the healer was terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyle View Post
    Full Str isn't to blame here, the terrible healer is. Even when you said you swapped to fending, you *barely* survived first pull then second you died again. This story has nothing to do with str vs vit, it's just simply the healer was terrible.
    As i made my point over and over again. You can't simply tell someone to go full STR with randoms. If healer isn't keeping up its not a option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzace View Post
    As i made my point over and over again. You can't simply tell someone to go full STR with randoms. If healer isn't keeping up its not a option.
    I ran into this last night actually. I had a SCH that was somehow convinced ( in the Aery) that eos was capable of healing me and he only had to DPS. So I switched to a VIT setup.... and still died. The extra HP did absolutely nothing to save me. I just made the bad situation worse as I couldn't focus down a mob or two to let me life through the liberal use of CD's and stoneskin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzace View Post
    And once again a very good reason why full STR is not always is in your best interest for these *elitest* people out there.

    Random PT(As i said many times before) Just a simple exp roulette. Was running full str (Healer was mix of 180/190) First pull i died. His response "Oh... you're running full dps"
    So i changed two equips from slaying to fending. Barely made the first pull. Second pull i wiped again. went full fending this time around, Nearly died again had to use HG on a trash pull. Cause Mr.healer was to busy DPSing and then continued to heal in CS instead of taking it off and give proper heals, Let not start about the fact he never used Beni not even once.

    So yes, FULL STR my ass. It all comes down to how comfortable your party is with it, And how comfortable you are with it.
    I usually run full STR or a mix. But i'm getting sick and tired of people saying there is no need for full vit or even a mix of vit/slay.

    You run with a random group and get a less-skilled healer and see how many times you'll wipe if you do big pulls

    If a tank wants to run full fending, (As a healer) i love it. means i get more DPS time and just an overall more smooth dungeon run.
    But if he decides to go full str, No problem. So let the player decides wether he goes full str/vit mix or what ever.

    Ofcourse pre-mades PT /PF PTs are a different story.
    Just an FYI, most of us who advocate going STR or crafted accessories don't mean to use STR on a PLD doing large pulls. It doesn't actually help the situation on a PLD as gearing towards STR on a DRK or WAR does, where more STR = realistically (sometimes vastly) shorter pull and more HP restored from Bloodbath and/or Abyssal Drain.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 09-17-2015 at 03:40 PM.

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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzace View Post
    And once again a very good reason why full STR is not always is in your best interest for these *elitest* people out there.

    Random PT(As i said many times before) Just a simple exp roulette. Was running full str (Healer was mix of 180/190) First pull i died. His response "Oh... you're running full dps"
    So i changed two equips from slaying to fending. Barely made the first pull. Second pull i wiped again. went full fending this time around, Nearly died again had to use HG on a trash pull. Cause Mr.healer was to busy DPSing and then continued to heal in CS instead of taking it off and give proper heals, Let not start about the fact he never used Beni not even once.

    So yes, FULL STR my ass. It all comes down to how comfortable your party is with it, And how comfortable you are with it.
    I usually run full STR or a mix. But i'm getting sick and tired of people saying there is no need for full vit or even a mix of vit/slay.

    You run with a random group and get a less-skilled healer and see how many times you'll wipe if you do big pulls.

    If a tank wants to run full fending, (As a healer) i love it. means i get more DPS time and just an overall more smooth dungeon run.
    But if he decides to go full str, No problem. So let the player decides wether he goes full str/vit mix or what ever.

    Ofcourse pre-mades PT /PF PTs are a different story.
    As someone else said, it sounds like that's on the healer. which is weird since you then turn around and say that as a healer you prefer vit tanks.

    I can't speak for sch or ast, but as whm it shouldn't matter what the tank gears if you know what you're doing. By the time your divine sealed' HoTs run out the enemies should be resisting holy spam and you should be low on mp and not able to dps much any more anyway unless you just let the tank die. Of course, with a good group enemies should be almost dead by then anyway.
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