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    Gorlioliolio's Avatar
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    Shaggy Grant
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    Right, and with personal parsers with optional sharing, you see immediately who wants to hide their DPS so you get a better idea of how receptive they are to criticism. Sounds like a benefit to personal parsers with optional sharing, to me. You get a better idea of whether the person will be willing to listen to criticism or if they'll just ignore what you say anyways.
    Which brings me back to my earlier point, why do I want this underperforming person who is unwilling to take constructive criticism in my group in the first place? Should I be forced to accept the person who basically says screw you to 3 other people just because there were only a couple people online at the time in my FC?

    And then circles around to the question I have presented you and you have avoided multiple times, at this point who is more selfish? The one person giving the proverbial finger to 3-7 other players or the group that doesn't want to deal with that person, I still don't know how you can stand by your stance of 1 person wasting 3 peoples time is less selfish then 3 people not wanting to deal with that a-hole in the first place, who is the bigger jerk at this point? The 3 people who agree that this person is just wasting their time or the 1 person being a jerk?

    Shows lack of desire to improve because they're potentially embarrassed over their numbers. Saves you time trying to help someone get better when they don't want it.
    You are fully admitting that these people have no desire to improve, which means that not only are they wasting that particular groups time but the time of numerous groups in the future, again what is more selfish?
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    Last edited by Gorlioliolio; 09-16-2015 at 03:11 AM.

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    Aiselia's Avatar
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    Shandraya Heavenswind
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio View Post
    Which brings me back to my earlier point, why do I want this underperforming person who is unwilling to take constructive criticism in my group in the first place? Should I be forced to accept the person who basically says screw you to 3 other people just because there were only a couple people online at the time in my FC?
    Are you still able to complete the run? Then yeah, accept it. You decided to pick up random people.

    Are you unable to possibly complete it because of them? Well, I already said I'm not against kicking people who make it literally impossible to clear.
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    I am able to complete the run if both dps go afk at the start of the dungeon and the healer is good, should I also not kick the dps in that situation?

    This has been stated multiple times before but 1 more time just for fun.

    No one is advocating booting someone for performing under the potential, only for performing so badly that it severely hinders the group.

    Like I stated before, if the tank cannot for the life of them hold agro, for some reason refuse to use tank stance and are doing practically nothing but are still running in and just spamming the 1 key, do you kick him? What if the dps/heals are so overgeared you can still clear but it might just take a while?

    This could turn into a 30-40 minute run, but it's still doable, you offer the tank advice and they ignore you, what reason do the 2 dps and healer have for putting up with this crap?

    Edit: you know he is going to just come back and say afk is on the list to boot, but guess what being a piss poor player because screw everyone else I'm a shiny snowflake and can do whatever I want in a dungeon is a form of harassment which is also on the boot list
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