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  1. #101
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    Boopie's Avatar
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    Merryl Bandybuck
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Why doesn't everyone play exactly like I want them to? Hmmmmmm......maybe because they AREN'T YOU! You do realize this is a game, right? This isn't a job. You aren't the boss. You don't get to decide how other people play. Just like I don't get to dcecide how you play. You like to heal and DPS? You get a gold star. You're upset because the dungeon took five minutes longer than you think it should have? You may need to find a new form of recreation.

    Have you ever considered solitaire?
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  2. #102
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    Staris's Avatar
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    Staris Fate
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nova_Dresden View Post
    Technically a parser isn't allowed by the games TOS. I'd be careful about admitting you use one on the official forums.
    Never said I had one, learn english.
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  3. #103
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    Bebekurenai's Avatar
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    Maya Sop
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    Never said I had one, learn english.
    Learn manners.
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  4. #104
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    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    If a healer doesn't dps. ;x I just get out of my tanking stance and DPS in full STR gear after setting hate. Might as well increase your damage a bit if their going to contribute 0.
    And then you die. Great choice, Mr. Tank.
    A dungeon is supposed to be teamwork and everyone have their own duties in the team. Yours is lead the way and keep aggro. Mine is heal. If we can do better than that, fine, if not, hold your horses and play with the tune.
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  5. #105
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    Sareal's Avatar
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    Sareal Keeper
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    And then you die. Great choice, Mr. Tank.
    Well, if a healer let's a tank die, especially if they are solely focusing on healing, rather than DPSing and other shenanigans, it speaks for itself. The tank stance helps reduce damage, but in expert roulette, a tank stance isn't going to make the night and day difference, and again, ESPECIALLY if the healer is solely focusing on healing.
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  6. #106
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sareal View Post
    Well, if a healer let's a tank die, especially if they are solely focusing on healing, rather than DPSing and other shenanigans, it speaks for itself. The tank stance helps reduce damage, but in expert roulette, a tank stance isn't going to make the night and day difference, and again, ESPECIALLY if the healer is solely focusing on healing.
    Depending on the healer or the tank ilv, it DOES make a difference.
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  7. #107
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Depending on the healer or the tank ilv, it DOES make a difference.
    It does make a difference, it's just not that significant, at least not in this type of content. I personally disagree that a tank is going to die simply because he decides to switch into his STR accessories and into DPS stance. I've seen mediocre healers keep DPS alive through trash, without tanks. Unless you pull a ridiculous amount of trash, the lowest ilvl possible in the dungeon can still handle a tank going DPS mode pretty fairly. Trash won't hit for 5k each and even if they did hit for 5k, it's still only a 20% reduction, or 1/5 of extra damage if you prefer. The healer would have to be pretty bad / distracted to not be able to handle the damage being dished out.
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  8. #108
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sareal View Post
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    Tanks usually pull everything till the next tornado/portal on Neverreap, for example. If an ilv145 tank goes into DPS instance + str gear and pull that much, he'll probably die if he isn't keeping strict control of his cooldowns and probably won't be able to keep hate too. But that's not the point in the thread. To be honest, if some tank/dps want so bad the healer to deal damage, they should go play a healer and dps whatever they want. It's ~NOT~ our primary responsability and will never be. If we want/feel confident enough, fine, if not, don't complain, because we're already doing our job by keeping the party alive and buffing.
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  9. #109
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    Sareal Keeper
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
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    I don't disagree with you, but I am disagreeing on the fact that you are saying a tank will die if they switch to DPS mode. I personally go in DPS mode 24/7 in expert roulette dungeons, I have never had problems. My damage intake is so low, watching the healer not do anything while I clemency myself for the laugh makes me wonder how bored they will get. As far as the topic, that's fine if you don't want to DPS and what not, but as far as I'm concerned, when I heal, I simply cannot just stand there and watch the health bar slowly drop, it's just boring to me. Plus, the extra damage I can do during that time is very welcomed.
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  10. #110
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sareal View Post
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    Well, I see a lot of DK and Warriors on Neverreap (the dungeon I farm for eso) taking HUGE amounts of damage WHILE PULLING, they haven't even stopped to estabilish aggro and are already at 25% HP. And ~of course~ using Tetra when that happens get me aggro. Maybe I'm just unlucky, idk
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