Are healers lazy or do some really live by "I only heal"?

[Sareal]

Depending on the healer or the tank ilv, it DOES make a difference.

It does make a difference, it's just not that significant, at least not in this type of content. I personally disagree that a tank is going to die simply because he decides to switch into his STR accessories and into DPS stance. I've seen mediocre healers keep DPS alive through trash, without tanks. Unless you pull a ridiculous amount of trash, the lowest ilvl possible in the dungeon can still handle a tank going DPS mode pretty fairly. Trash won't hit for 5k each and even if they did hit for 5k, it's still only a 20% reduction, or 1/5 of extra damage if you prefer. The healer would have to be pretty bad / distracted to not be able to handle the damage being dished out.

[Fevelle]

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Tanks usually pull everything till the next tornado/portal on Neverreap, for example. If an ilv145 tank goes into DPS instance + str gear and pull that much, he'll probably die if he isn't keeping strict control of his cooldowns and probably won't be able to keep hate too. But that's not the point in the thread. To be honest, if some tank/dps want so bad the healer to deal damage, they should go play a healer and dps whatever they want. It's ~NOT~ our primary responsability and will never be. If we want/feel confident enough, fine, if not, don't complain, because we're already doing our job by keeping the party alive and buffing.

[Sareal]

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I don't disagree with you, but I am disagreeing on the fact that you are saying a tank will die if they switch to DPS mode. I personally go in DPS mode 24/7 in expert roulette dungeons, I have never had problems. My damage intake is so low, watching the healer not do anything while I clemency myself for the laugh makes me wonder how bored they will get. As far as the topic, that's fine if you don't want to DPS and what not, but as far as I'm concerned, when I heal, I simply cannot just stand there and watch the health bar slowly drop, it's just boring to me. Plus, the extra damage I can do during that time is very welcomed.

[Fevelle]

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Well, I see a lot of DK and Warriors on Neverreap (the dungeon I farm for eso) taking HUGE amounts of damage WHILE PULLING, they haven't even stopped to estabilish aggro and are already at 25% HP. And ~of course~ using Tetra when that happens get me aggro. Maybe I'm just unlucky, idk

[Sareal]

And ~of course~ using Tetra when that happens get me aggro. Maybe I'm just unlucky, idk

That seems awfully specific. I refuse to believe that this is how all of your runs goes, because it literally only takes 1 AoE from the tank to hold aggro from any kind of healing abilities, assuming they are pulling with their tank stances on. If they are pulling with their DPS stances on, they aren't very smart and simply don't know how to play their role. As a paladin, I can hold the aggro of an entire AoE pack by simply spamming Flash, and even just 1 flash will at least keep aggro from the healer until I pulled everything I intended to pull if they so decide to heal me during the "pull run"

[Nova_Dresden]

That seems awfully specific. I refuse to believe that this is how all of your runs goes, because it literally only takes 1 AoE from the tank to hold aggro from any kind of healing abilities, assuming they are pulling with their tank stances on. If they are pulling with their DPS stances on, they aren't very smart and simply don't know how to play their role. As a paladin, I can hold the aggro of an entire AoE pack by simply spamming Flash, and even just 1 flash will at least keep aggro from the healer until I pulled everything I intended to pull if they so decide to heal me during the "pull run"

It is specific, and it is very common. My fairy has taken quite a few hits from stuff because of her programming. Tank health drops=cast heal. Suddenly a pile of stuff is all over her. It's not every run, but at least 2-3 times a week I have to deal with that kind of a tank.

[Sareal]

If a healer doesn't dps. ;x I just get out of my tanking stance and DPS in full STR gear after setting hate. Might as well increase your damage a bit if their going to contribute 0.

While it is common to find unskilled tanks, it is not specific to the point of generalizing that "DPS stance tank = Dead tank", it's more in the line of "Bad tank using DPS stance will cause these kinds of situations to happen", in which case, this is specific in the sense that you will find noobs in all and every roles. I just don't see how we should look at that specific situation simply because there are less skilled people than others.