Are healers lazy or do some really live by "I only heal"?

[ShaneDawn]

Next thing you know, you're readibg a thread about paper tanks who go in full STR and they can't semi-afk watching Netflix while in the dungeon.

reading** about healers conplaining about paper tanks**

Phone.

[ShaneDawn]

If you're 20-25% faster just by having your healer deal damage, kick your DDs and find competent ones.

You do know that a good healer can deal close to same damage (and some cases even better) on packs of mobs than certain dps classes right? Their single target damage is not nearly as potent, but I've seen White Mages do huge numbers with Holy spam, and Scholars with Bane.

In an ideal world, everyone would contribute to the best of their abilities. However, we have a bunch of people who dgaf and play like "they want". That is why we have lazy healers, bad dps players and tanks afking easy content in full vit. It's usually not a l2p issue in easy content, but rather people being lazy/stubborn.

Not expecting everyone to be MLG, but you can see the slackers.

[Bebekurenai]

Your last point I strongly will have to disagree. If SE wanted healers to actively and demandingly contribute to the dps on duties, they would have included their dps in their minimum damage in party calculations. And we know they didn't and won't. My perception on what the job healer implies is in the word itself. Healer = a guy that heals. Yes they have attack spells, and we could argue for hours on the propper use for them, may it be for solo purposes, or to help the party, either way there are optimizations which are controlled by the player himself and his willingness.

You might find a better use for those mp that don't seem to run low, but maybe the healer himself doesn't. As mentioned before, we have a diferent understanding of things and a diferent standard where your line of lazyness is lower than mine. But I will say this again, a healer's role and purpose is to heal and therefore I don't expect any less mor any more. Any less of that for me is lazy, any more is a bonus.
It's up to us all to perform our best or maybe not, depending on the importance given. Talking about myself, if the party has no danger and all is good, I will toss in my dps too, but I need to be sure the tank can hold the mobs alone for a bit and the dps dodge things. If I am on blm and my healer doesn't dps, it's fine, as long as stoneskins are going around and he is doing his job, I don't expect any more. If the party's dps is low and things just keep living forever, I certainly would not blame the healer for not dps'ing, I will look at the dps.

On a side note, and on this I completely agree with you guys. If I see a healer jumping around while the party is killing stuff and there is no danger and mp are good, I will call that guy lazy, cause obviously he is not panicking or glueing his eyes on the party menu maybe too shy or unsure to switch to cleric stance. Then definetly yes, LAZY!!!

To finish, guys, stop being so perfect, play and have fun. If there's a problem or something to be improved, tell your party members: are they ok? Do they have a young puppy claiming attention? Are they sad?Are they not on their main job and maybe unsure but need to practice? Maybe you miss the oportunity to meet someone great and you might not see him/her again. Just don't get grumpy if they don't perfom as best as they can.

[Boopie]

Why doesn't everyone play exactly like I want them to? Hmmmmmm......maybe because they AREN'T YOU! You do realize this is a game, right? This isn't a job. You aren't the boss. You don't get to decide how other people play. Just like I don't get to dcecide how you play. You like to heal and DPS? You get a gold star. You're upset because the dungeon took five minutes longer than you think it should have? You may need to find a new form of recreation.

Have you ever considered solitaire?

[Sareal]

It is specific, and it is very common.

I don't find it common, at least not when I heal. Specific, that is unarguable, because any kind of tanks that knows what they are doing won't lose the initial aggro to a heal unless the heal was cast at the very moment the pull was done, which the fairy will rarely ever do, since the HP of the tank has not yet dropped. Don't forget that this particular take on the topic of "tank dying because being in DPS stance" started because (continued)

[raela]

Healer does 25% of DPS damage? I'd say my single target is about 50% (equal or above bad DPS) and aoe can be even with DPS with few aoe tools. Seriously, it's a good boost to the party. This is based on my friend parsing our DF ex roulette / Alex NM runs (while I micromanage Eos, so heals are still going out).

[ThinkPInk]

These threads are so funny. As s healer I'm there to heal. DPS is optional and an added benefit. I'll dps if I choose to and there is nothing you can do to change that. I'm waiting for the person that comes into a dungeon and tells me how to do my job. You will get shut down very quickly. Trying to kick me would be even funnier because I'm always with friends lol. Let people play the way they want. It's not your place to try and control anyone. What you consider fun is not the same as everyone else.

[SeleneFatalis]

Here's my thing, as a WHM main.

If I am in a dungeon with randoms, I'll focus on healing. About halfway through the dungeon (or sooner), I'll start DPSing, to get it going a little faster and to fill that downtime.

If I am in a dungeon with "my tank", I'll do a mixture, and even see how much I can DPS, because I know what to expect.

As a healer, you don't know what everyone is going to do. Is the tank going to do large pulls? Is he going to use his cooldowns efficiently? Are the dps going to pull aggro constantly? Are they going to avoid aoes? It's hard to tell initially. So when I don't know what to expect, I play it safe, until I see the pattern.

It's all about comfort level for me. I can't speak for everyone though. Maybe some really are lazy.

[Chiramu]

If any healer does not do DPS when there is no healing to be needed do not give them commendations. I never give comms to those people because they sit there and overheal my HP constantly >.>... They don't even know what mitigating abilities are.

[l1nk]

If any healer does not do DPS when there is no healing to be needed do not give them commendations. I never give comms to those people because they sit there and overheal my HP constantly >.>... They don't even know what mitigating abilities are.

Ye, cause I'm always crying when I don't get 4 commendations after a roulette