Am I the only one fed up with DPS obsession?

[Whiston]

are dps who only dps also boring?

Absolutely.

I think a DPS who never pops a defensive cooldown, an oGCD free heal such as second wind or bloodbath, or never uses party aiding buffs such as mantra and eye for an eye to be just as bland as the healer who refuses to dps and the tank who feels his job is exclusively to hold agro.
But as is very prevalent in this game, a lot of things the DPS classes do are hidden in a protected veil, while the tank and healer classes are more open to criticism, so generally, nobody sees or cares that most DPS don't use 2/3 of their abilities.

[Drtoxicmedica]

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You fail to understand who savage is for. The people that push for world first WILL find a way to dps and play there class above anything the devs can throw at them. Unless they literally made it so healers and tanks had absolutely disgustingly bad dps then these group will find away to add even more dps to clear faster. Which happens to be the end game raiding scenes meta. Groups coming in after them with not need the level of dps the tanks and healers had to put out to clear. These fights are tuned with this in mind. You don't think some people actually find savage hard enough? You know how many actually beat A4 total since it's release? If adding dps isn't your thing that's fine savage isn't for all of us. But to basically say the only way to make things better is refusing these players the ability to dps in nearly every fight is selfish. When it's only needed in 4 fights UNTIL we are at its gear level or higher...

[Drtoxicmedica]

I'm sure there are ways to design a fight where tanking is challenging (Swapping, picking adds at the right time, positioning, keeping aggro on multiple targets, etc, etc...).

And to focus on this point nearly every fight has mechanics like this....but it's only really interesting till you understand how the fight works and it's flow. Things like garuda ex. Titan swaps before over gearing. Ifrit swaps. Levi adds and healijg debuff. Ramuh swaps as well as the mechanics requireing everyone to be on the ball. Shiva swaps and her placement.Positioning in t9. T6 swaps. t7 adds. t1 boss. t10 adds placement. Swaps and rotation of adds in t11. T12 Bennu placement as well as movement in 3rd phase. Not even mentioning the new tanking mechanics in savage Alexander where's your point exactly? They've always been there people just learned how to do them more effectively or simply out geared then if they couldn't.

[HoodRat]

i think the DDs are just lazy or bad o.o/ it's not my job as a healer to play two different classes at the same time while the DDs take the backseat to their loot :X

I get depressed running things in df because I always have the highest or second highest dps...as a tank. ;-;

[Nadirah]

Back in my day, healing challenge was solo healing ten people in a raid with stupid high raidwide incoming damage with only single target spells because your other healer bit the dust and you didn't have a druid.

While the tank was getting rekt.

We didn't have time to dps. We didn't have the mana to dps.

Even further back, we timed slipping out of combat for MP regen for a tick or two.

Kids these days.

[Assirra]

Back in my day, healing challenge was solo healing ten people in a raid with stupid high raidwide incoming damage with only single target spells because your other healer bit the dust and you didn't have a druid.

While the tank was getting rekt.

We didn't have time to dps. We didn't have the mana to dps.

Even further back, we timed slipping out of combat for MP regen for a tick or two.

Kids these days.

To be fair that resulted in some stupid stuff sometimes.
I remember in wow on certain bosses you basically had 1 healer group healing while the other was regening mana.

[Sylkis]

It would be nice if we had a tank/healer check, and soft DPS enrage instead of hard enrage. The check should be on MP and related resources.

Currently:
-Difficulty is only mitigating the tank busters, and tank busters are not happening very often, causing a large amount of downtime
-MP regen too high from bard/mch and MP costs too low (compared to other games where resources feel tight), along with amount healed from basic skills too high relative to tank HP - e.g. Cure heals 3k when Tank HP is 10k. This means that you can heal the tank to full quickly and cheaply, causing more downtime
-> This causes top tank/healers to DPS during healing downtime, and in turn the developers increase the DPS checks by compensating for tank/healer DPS.
Really they should increase the tank/healer check so that this downtime doesn't happen in the first place.

[MaxDetroit]

that was not the question. his profile says he is ninja. a ninja can't do anything else than dps. so after his logic he is playing a boring class...

Honestly, this is why I love playing white mage. Even in normal dungeons you always have interesting decisions to make:
When is the right time to stop healing and go into cleric stance?
How long can I do damage until I have to switch back to healing?
How can I maximize my DPS while keeping Tank and Party up and alive?

White mage is a class that can be the most relaxing job of all, if you just stick to pure healing.
But if you try to do damage as well, it is one of the most demanding and interesting Jobs in the game, it's your choice.
And I have really no problem with that being a requirement for Alex Savage.

PS: Same goes, naturally, for Scholar and Astro.

[Aldehido]

Not sure if this was mentioned already but this DPS obession stems from trying to clear out dungeon out of pure brute force and skill earlier and not waiting to get better gear and do it in a relaxed manner. Maybe you're trying to be with a high end group and you're not cut off for it.

[Garotte14]

If they didn't want healers to dps, they wouldn't have dps abilities. It's frustrating seeing people say that tanks and/or healers essentially have to do two jobs, while dps only has to do one. This is an incorrect way of thinking. Fact is, you should be utilizing every tool you have been given. THAT is your job.