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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurvus View Post
    And even when you do DPS as a healer in WoW, it is always directly or indirectly improving your Healing which does NOT happen in FFXIV:ARR.
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    No. You were not supposed to go ham on the boss, like you are here. That's not what I was saying. I was saying that yeah, you did DPS. Maybe not fully, but you were always tossing something at the boss to keep your stacks up. When you tie in Mana regen into several offensive abilities, you really had no choice, unless you wanted to go OOM.
    That is literally what I said. I never said you were supposed to go to the extremes we do here to blast away at the boss as much as possible. All I said, was that yes, healers in WoW DID add to the DPS.
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  2. #102
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    Damascea Unjou
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    Omega
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    Dragoon Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    That is literally what I said. I never said you were supposed to go to the extremes we do here to blast away at the boss as much as possible. All I said, was that yes, healers in WoW DID add to the DPS.
    Except you try to use it as a means to refute a point, whereas I explained that adding to DPS as a healer is 1% of your job in WoW, and when you do add to DPS you are also healing or contributiong towards your healing.
    Therefore the focus/priority on DPS as a Healer in WoW is close to 0%.

    I'm not here to duel.
    The point is simple and clear:
    I - and many others - want the game to challenge my ability to Heal when I'm a healer.
    WoW does that.
    FFXIV:AR does not - here the healing is devoid of complexity or depth, and is just a filler task for a Healer. You are ultimately still only challenged in DPS.

    The same for Tanking.
    In WoW - after a few years - Tanks also have "active mitigation", which is to say they have to watch out for survival mechanics the same way DPS watch out for dps mechanics - and I'm not talking about big cooldowns.
    Therefore your ability to Tank is challenged when you are a Tank, although you also are challenged in DPS due to the need to generate threat (and tank dps is ultimately accounted for when setting the goal).
    In FFXIV:ARR, your "tanking" is either baked into your attacks or consists of a premeditated defensive cooldown rotation - there is no challenge in that.

    SE needs to step up their game in many areas, but specially in Healing and Tanking actually being the main challenges for Healers and Tanks, respectively - not DPS.
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    Last edited by Nurvus; 09-08-2015 at 01:33 PM.

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