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    Minorinz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Isn't this the opposite of what you've been doing though? Everything you've said has no analysis or weight to it, other than eye-balled, subjective statements. That's what's getting on my nerves lol.
    nope, not really. Still nothing on ss yet but we have something on crit.
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minorinz View Post
    nope, not really. Still nothing on ss yet but we have something on crit.
    Sigh. I give up.

    It's days like this I wish I had 60 SMN ;_;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidra View Post
    Haha oh the irony. So let's just, for a second, assume that spell speed ends up being really good. The 20% spell speed increase from the pet trait is considerably more potent than what you would get from gear. But it's spawned with a crit. LOL good luck with that math.
    It's actually really easy to simulate by normalizing how often procs occur. Still, those numbers show that the average SS over time you gain from the crit procs is still nothing compared to what you get from gear. Also, the value of those procs scales with gear, so really, you'll want both. But we'll never be able to incorporate the value of those procs into the crit weight itself, that will all have to come out of sims.

    Quote Originally Posted by Minorinz View Post
    nope, not really. Still nothing on ss yet but we have something on crit.
    Don't you realize that the same analysis determines the values of both? If you don't have anything on SS, you don't have anything on Crit. They're both relative to each other, so unless you know how _relatively good_ SS is, you have no idea how _relatively good_ Crit is. You can't understand the value of one without understanding the value of another.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Sigh. I give up.

    It's days like this I wish I had 60 SMN ;_;
    You don't need a level 60 SMN to recognized a horrible argument for what it is.
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