Quote Originally Posted by La_Bluegirl View Post
They specifically complained botd is still on a timer.
They specifically complained that it was on a timer that constantly fails due to mechanics beyond their control.

Refreshing the cooldown itself lowers it
Refreshing the timer reduces the max, it doesn't reduce the time remaining. Otherwise that wouldn't be refreshing the timer.

It's still free oGCD damage.
And they're complaining that it has a 10 sec cooldown but would not only be impossible to use every 10 sec, but would leave you as 2.0 DRG for like 40 sec every minute if you tried, and makes the failing timer on BOTD due to mechanics even worse.

It's also not free because it costs BOTD time.

Nope, but if you're gonna say battle lit + disembowel isn't already extremely strong raid utility then you're being silly.
I'm going to say that a 15% crit chance buff for 20 sec every 3 minutes that only affects people who are in range at the time is nowhere near as powerful as a 10% to all damage debuff for 10 sec every minute.

And I mean, if you're going to include Disembowel even though it isn't "raid utility" because it doesn't affect the entire raid, that at best will affect the DRG and a BRD/MCH. Dancing Edge would affect all tanks as well as the Ninja. At bare minimum, DE affects 1 (or 2) tanks plus the ninja, 3 people. Unless you're stacking BRD/MCH for some reason, Disembowel is going to affect the DRG and a BRD/MCH if you have it, two people.

Quote Originally Posted by ColdestHeaven View Post
What about Fire IV, in that case?
What about it?