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  1. #131
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    Joronas Ni'vira
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    So .. you want a lazy way to become better then someone who has actually dedicated time to maxing all their classes and unlocking everything for them? Because you're too selfish and lazy to actually invest time and effort into it? Have you even tried any of the endgame crafting? Do you know anything about what you are talking about?

    Unless specialization suddenly and retroactively requires a quest chain that rivals the effort required to max all classes, then it should never be better then an omnicrafter. To suggest so is idiocy. It defies logic and reason.

    Most people are perfectly happy having specialists be able to pull off the same results as omni-crafters in their specialty. They don't feel the need to screw over the people who have worked to improve their crafting.
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  2. #132
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    Ranzan's Avatar
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    Kheima Rayne
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Unicorn and rainbows and a dash of backhanded insults to omnicrafters.
    Calling omnis selfish yet demanding omni crafters give up what they had worked for. I also find it funny that omnicrafters are give suggestions (fix sp skills) but all I hear from the other side is "no we need to gate and take away from you omnicrafters cause <insert lame collaboration excuses>.
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    But then again the majority in this thread haven't/ can't even attempt 2 star crafts so i don't think u'll even be able to touch specialist crafting lmao.
    So maybe before half of u squawk ur mouth off u should try and do SE's current content before saying doomsday about the next.
    Just saying the truth u theory crafter.
    Actually ... I've done several of the new crafting .. to the point of having made final pieces, not just component pieces...
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  4. #134
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    Nico Nico
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    Don't be naive, as you said it will be "to make alts" but not "people working together as a community" ^^;
    If ppl like working togther, they can working together anytime.
    YoishiP has said we can do everything on a single charater, therefore this design is not expected for a lot users who have trusted YoshiP.
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  5. #135
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    W'fharl Tia
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    Switching specialties is not really that different from the one-month restriction on switching Grand Companies. Nobody's forbidding you from doing everything on one character, just not all at once. It's probably not going to change because there really isn't a pressing need for it to change. It's a design spec that's been in place for pretty much every other aspect of the game already, so there's nothing inherently evil about it being applied to crafting (or gathering, if those datamined gatherer soul icons mean anything).

    If anything, we should all be demanding the FFXI system that lets you switch your starter city via a cosmic retcon, because that's two full storylines worth of EXP that you're forever unfairly locked out of because of a choice you made at character creation.
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  6. #136
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    Lexia Lightress
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    A specialist in their field should be better then anything else whether it be easier time creating items or having higher yield from their recipes otherwise it just a meaningless word.
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
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    Like it's been said before. FFXIV=/= FFXIV learn to get use to that ok. Also no its not the same as switching Grand Companies. Here is a better comparison.

    You after you level a DoM/Dow class to 30 you do a quest to get three blank soul crystals. Now you have to choose which 3 out of 13 classes to turn into jobs. Also you have to pay 480 of whatever is the gated tomes at the time to switch. Everyone is so in love with this concept why not suggest this for DoW/M? Cause that would puss people of that's why.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranzan View Post
    Like it's been said before. FFXIV=/= FFXIV learn to get use to that ok.
    It was sarcasm, one, and two, that typo is beautiful. But you clearly aren't keen on hearing views that contract your own, just shouting to the apathetic stars above. So have fun with that.
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  9. #139
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    Florence Leduc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    A specialist in their field should be better then anything else whether it be easier time creating items or having higher yield from their recipes otherwise it just a meaningless word.
    the trouble is from the start the fact to add specialization was an error, since the goal was to allows people that don't want to level all craft to be able to compete against people that do it. the goal was good, but the way to do it was bad in way too many way.
    since it's still better to do omnicrafter if you want to do the high end crafting and it will not change even for the specilization! how you want 5 skill of specialization to compete with 10 cross skill?

    but now, they want to limitate access to some recipe to specialization, for what? because omnicrafting will still be mandatory for get the best of the best! nothing of what they do now will help, since omnicrafting give 10 skill, only 5 new skill will not change this... instead to make it easier to level up other craft they have decide to follow the worst way ever...
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    It was sarcasm, one, and two, that typo is beautiful. But you clearly aren't keen on hearing views that contract your own, just shouting to the apathetic stars above. So have fun with that.
    Then we can agree to disagree then cause your not hearing the other side either.
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