Specialist Recipees: Why do the developers keep listening to bad requests?

[Gilthas]

Crafting and Gathering already became even more time consuming with Heavensward and now you're going to implement even more bad stuff into the game?

The lock-outs in Desynthing were already bad.

Limiting players to only 3 Specializations was even worse.

And now you're going to further lock us out of content by adding Specialist recipees?

Not everyone thinks that farming gil is fun. I did it for years in FFXI, then I did it here for my FC house, then for my personal house, and then for all the materia and materials for my relic. I've had enough of this crap already.

I just want to gather my own materials and craft my own gear/items/furniture. Because that's so much more fun. I have zero interest in making gil.

Please start taking players like me into consideration when designing content. Using the market board should be optional, not forced down our throats.

With every patch you have been making gathering and crafting more and more cumbersome to the point where even making GC deliveries for GC seals has now become a major chore. This kind of stuff just pushes players away from this content and the only people you're making happy are the greedy players that want everyone else to not do this content so they can jack up prices on the MB.

[Eisengrim]

They didn't say all the recipes from now on will require being a specialist. They just said they're going to add some specialist recipes. Which I would not mind.

[Lemuria]

Right now being a specialist means precisely zero. The skills you learn through it are barely worth the space on your hotbar, and there's almost no incentive to become a specialist in anything if you already have every craft at 50.

For the record, my specialists are Blacksmith, Weaver and Goldsmith. Other than giving myself something to do with those 'soul' items which were thrusted into my inventory by a random NPC, there's pretty much no real point. Adding specialist recipes will at least give some weight to being a specialist, and maybe even help the economy by spreading things out a bit.

There will always be price-gougers, but most of them are able to do so not because of being a specialist, but by having easier access to the rare and difficult materials which price most other crafters out of the markets. That'll happen regardless of specialist recipes.

[Gilthas]

Right now being a specialist means precisely zero.

Specializations based on locking players out of content should have never been added to the game in the first place. Just like Desynthing lock-outs.

Recipees in Heavensward have already become ridiculously bloated requiring far too many materials and many cross-craft materials. Now what? Will they add base materials that can only be obtained from specialist recipees thus ensuring that the MB is further jammed down our throats?

Using the MB should be optional. Gathering and Crafting content shouldn't be locked behind it.

There will always be price-gougers, but most of them are able to do so not because of being a specialist, but by having easier access to the rare and difficult materials which price most other crafters out of the markets. That'll happen regardless of specialist recipes.

And that's the other problem with gathering and crafting. The development team is far too concerned with making items rare so prices on the MB are high instead of making it fun.

[RiceisNice]

Specializations based on locking players out of content should have never been added to the game in the first place. Just like Desynthing lock-outs.

That's why you need some networking and connections in an MMO. Me and my FC were excited that we'd be able to help fill each other's needs and complete the circle of crafting. And then we get this piece of shite that does absolutely nothing but add another layer of RNG and liability to crafting.

[Ranzan]

That's why you need some networking and connections in an MMO. Me and my FC were excited that we'd be able to help fill each other's needs and complete the circle of crafting. And then we get this piece of shite that does absolutely nothing but add another layer of RNG and liability to crafting.

Or your in an FC like me where people can't be are to craft and comes to me as a 1 stop shop.

Instead of recipes how about fixing those skills first. They are next useless for a stand alone craft. Unique recipes don't fix the specialization problem.

[Lemuria]

you can get crafter soulstones for redscrips, so its possible for everyone to get specialist status in all 8 jobs

Your armory soulstone carrying limit prevents having every craft available on a quick-swap. You would need to manually carry them in your inventory and swap them out manually for each craft. Soulstones also cannot be discarded, so you're basically stuck with 5 extra inventory hogs.

Specializations based on locking players out of content should have never been added to the game in the first place. Just like Desynthing lock-outs.

That's a very blinkered way of looking at it. You see it as locking you out, while I see it as adding incentives. Specializations at the moment don't lock you out of anything, they just sort of 'exist'. Nymeia's Loom is arguably the only worthwhile addition, but even that is so locked behind RNG that it's scarcely worth a mention.

The entirety of the specialist skills revolve around 'good' and 'excellent' condition materials. It's what depletes whistles and activates the special bonuses. Even our final skill is basically just a means to earn more 'good' and 'excellent' conditions. It's nothing to write home about, and nothing special... at the moment.

Adding specialist recipes is NEEDED. I've actually looked forward to this because it breaks up the playing field a bit. When everyone can craft everything, it gets dull and there's no real market. We basically craft for other crafters at the moment. There's never been any end-game viability in our work, and it's solely been about looking pretty and making stuff for the next generation of weavers and alchemists.

The sooner you realize the truth of crafting, the sooner you can mellow out and just enjoy the ride. Except for scrips. That whole scrip system can go to the hottest, nastiest hole in hell and burn for all eternity for all I care.

[Felis]

Specializations based on locking players out of content should have never been added to the game in the first place. Just like Desynthing lock-outs.

You can always reset a desynthese back to 0 and level up another one. You can always change a specialization afterwards (will cost you some scripts, i think).
You don't get locked out, you can just not get everything at the same time and have to choose.

Also, is it really that surprising that there will be recipes for the specialists? I thought this was clear like water from the beginning.

[Ayerinn]

Right now being a specialist means precisely zero. The skills you learn through it are barely worth the space on your hotbar, and there's almost no incentive to become a specialist in anything if you already have every craft at 50.

*SNIP for space*

There will always be price-gougers, but most of them are able to do so not because of being a specialist, but by having easier access to the rare and difficult materials which price most other crafters out of the markets. That'll happen regardless of specialist recipes.

pretty much - I'm 60 in all crafts and still have the specialist quest in my log...because I know specialist is completely pointless right now - give me a reason to turn my quest in and chose!

[ckc22]

Right now being a specialist means precisely zero. The skills you learn through it are barely worth the space on your hotbar, and there's almost no incentive to become a specialist in anything if you already have every craft at 50.

Specializations were a bad idea in the first place. It's rare I learn someones name on the boards but you're on the wrong side of almost every issue/thread you post in.

Well that's a problem of your own making then. You have the option of access to all specialization recipes even after they introduce this by making those alts, you choose not to do so which is on you.

BS. If your answer to anything in this game is "make an alt" it is not an acceptable answer. This goes against the entire point of the armory system.