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  1. #1141
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    BannedatRegistration's Avatar
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    Sasori Redsand
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by girlsimulation View Post
    Wow dude, sure glad you're here to be respectful and helpful towards people who wanna know about machinist
    I have been as helpful as I can be in this thread..so take the drama elsewhere

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  2. #1142
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    It does due to scaling.

    Tentative Stat Weights (3.01)
    w/o GB
    WD - 9.172

    w/ GB
    WD - 10.71

    For every weapon damage you get GB gets stronger.
    I don't see why this would be such a big difference? For bards at least,

    W/O WM
    WD: 11.364

    W/ WM
    WD: 11.602.

    It's only a 0.3 difference. Why would there be a whole 1.6 difference for a Machinist? Makes no sense in my head, unless there's something I'm severely missing and/or forgetting about the Machinist?
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  3. #1143
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    Vinegar Vinegar
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by BannedatRegistration View Post
    I have been as helpful as I can be in this thread..so take the drama elsewhere
    I mean, my point from the start was that my mch is an undergeared sideclass that I'm mediocre at, and even if you drop the ~20 dps heartbreaker usually gives I'm still pulling higher than the number someone gave as ok average mch parse. If I misunderstood what you meant and came off as bragging, I'm sorry about that. I'm not here to brag about having Big Numbers, I literally don't care about my mch numbers at all, I just wanna help people know what they should be expecting to parse.

    also @the person reading this thread who apparently has it in for my fc bigtime, pastebinned so the rest of you don't have to see it: http://pastebin.com/DbuJ4aMm
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  4. #1144
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    I don't see why this would be such a big difference? For bards at least,

    W/O WM
    WD: 11.364

    W/ WM
    WD: 11.602.

    It's only a 0.3 difference. Why would there be a whole 1.6 difference for a Machinist? Makes no sense in my head, unless there's something I'm severely missing and/or forgetting about the Machinist?
    Those are not my numbers, they are from the OP's post on the first page (was too lazy to make a quote, hue). My guesses would be ammo adding potency to skills, hot shot, procs, rapid fire and free crit modifier.
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  5. #1145
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    Ryaz's Avatar
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    And these last couple of pages remind me why I hate forums. Egos fighting each other over stupid things. Sigh. Can't we just have a civilized debate for once without it degenerating into a fight?

    Anyway, just did some testing at i191 on my FC dummy. No food, no pots, no chocobo, no other party members, no stance dancing except for during first and third Wildfire for extra AA hits and I average about 1050 over 4minutes and 30 seconds myself. I hit about 1690 on my original burst and stayed around 1150 for a while until it dropped to 1000-1050 during the last 45 seconds or so. I also had a lot of dry spells on procs (not sure if dummies are bugged are not, but except for a QR in there, I had about 10-11 non-procs on split shot).
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 08-22-2015 at 12:51 AM.

  6. #1146
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    And these last couple of pages remind me why I hate forums. Egos fighting each other over stupid things. Sigh. Can't we just have a civilized debate for once without it degenerating into a fight?
    MCH fight!



    Anyway, just did some testing at i191 on my FC dummy. No food, no pots, no chocobo, no other party members, no stance dancing except for during first and third Wildfire for extra AA hits and I average about 1050 over 4minutes and 30 seconds myself. I hit about 1690 on my original burst and stayed around 1150 for a while until it dropped to 1000-1050 during the last 45 seconds or so. I also had a lot of dry spells on procs (not sure if dummies are bugged are not, but except for a QR in there, I had about 10-11 non-procs on split shot).
    Might want to check the parse if it is detecting Wildfire. Your burst DPS should be higher than that. Your DPS looks pretty good to me. I roughly hit that much also under those conditions. Procs and crits heavily determine it, but on a really good parse I can stay past 1100+.
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  7. #1147
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Might want to check the parse if it is detecting Wildfire. Your burst DPS should be higher than that. Your DPS looks pretty good to me. I roughly hit that much also under those conditions. Procs and crits heavily determine it, but on a really good parse I can stay past 1100+.
    Wildfire was accounted for, but don't know if it factored into the parse or not. I did notice a couple of times Wildfire went off and my dps didn't budge, which makes no sense. I don't have a ton of luck with Wildfires. I think my highest burst was in A4 where I hit 8.5k with no food or pots and a drg. On one of my parses today, I hit like 5200 on the opener, despite a perfect rotation and then later in the same fight, I messed up a bit and hit 6900. It just seems very random for me. I've been practicing multiple opening rotations, but without pots or anything else, I can't seem to break more than 7.2k with with most around 6.8k.

    Guess I'll just keep practicing. Next time I'll try it with some food and maybe I'll head to Tailfeather so I can use my chocobo for the dex buff.
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  8. #1148
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    Sephaistos Eum
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    Wildfire was accounted for, but don't know if it factored into the parse or not. I did notice a couple of times Wildfire went off and my dps didn't budge, which makes no sense. I don't have a ton of luck with Wildfires. I think my highest burst was in A4 where I hit 8.5k with no food or pots and a drg. On one of my parses today, I hit like 5200 on the opener, despite a perfect rotation and then later in the same fight, I messed up a bit and hit 6900. It just seems very random for me. I've been practicing multiple opening rotations, but without pots or anything else, I can't seem to break more than 7.2k with with most around 6.8k.

    Guess I'll just keep practicing. Next time I'll try it with some food and maybe I'll head to Tailfeather so I can use my chocobo for the dex buff.
    Ive noticed that using pingzapper made my opener alot smoother. Before I had pretty often those casts that get interrupted or start a bit late but now i'm consistently getting good WFs
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  9. #1149
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    Quote Originally Posted by zandervont View Post
    Ive noticed that using pingzapper made my opener alot smoother. Before I had pretty often those casts that get interrupted or start a bit late but now i'm consistently getting good WFs
    My ping is usually between 15-30 ms, sometimes hitting about 50. I can't get much better than that (and I wouldn't want to pay to do so).
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  10. #1150
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    Sasori Redsand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
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    Upset that one person out of thousands playing the same video game character is doing the same DPS as me? Spare me the drama PLEASE

    And I'm ready to enter A3S tonight so I'm plenty "get good", but I can always be better right?
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    Last edited by BannedatRegistration; 08-22-2015 at 06:56 AM.
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