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    Ephier's Avatar
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lavieh View Post
    I'm fairly positive that increased weapon damage will not make stance dancing worse.

    Secondary stats will though, but it would take quite a bit of them. your GCD needs to be about 2.22 or so for stance dancing to yield no benefit. I'm not sure how much det or Crit are needed to make stance dancing meaningless.
    It does due to scaling.

    Tentative Stat Weights (3.01)
    w/o GB
    WD - 9.172

    w/ GB
    WD - 10.71

    For every weapon damage you get GB gets stronger.
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    And these last couple of pages remind me why I hate forums. Egos fighting each other over stupid things. Sigh. Can't we just have a civilized debate for once without it degenerating into a fight?

    Anyway, just did some testing at i191 on my FC dummy. No food, no pots, no chocobo, no other party members, no stance dancing except for during first and third Wildfire for extra AA hits and I average about 1050 over 4minutes and 30 seconds myself. I hit about 1690 on my original burst and stayed around 1150 for a while until it dropped to 1000-1050 during the last 45 seconds or so. I also had a lot of dry spells on procs (not sure if dummies are bugged are not, but except for a QR in there, I had about 10-11 non-procs on split shot).
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 08-22-2015 at 12:51 AM.

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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    And these last couple of pages remind me why I hate forums. Egos fighting each other over stupid things. Sigh. Can't we just have a civilized debate for once without it degenerating into a fight?
    MCH fight!



    Anyway, just did some testing at i191 on my FC dummy. No food, no pots, no chocobo, no other party members, no stance dancing except for during first and third Wildfire for extra AA hits and I average about 1050 over 4minutes and 30 seconds myself. I hit about 1690 on my original burst and stayed around 1150 for a while until it dropped to 1000-1050 during the last 45 seconds or so. I also had a lot of dry spells on procs (not sure if dummies are bugged are not, but except for a QR in there, I had about 10-11 non-procs on split shot).
    Might want to check the parse if it is detecting Wildfire. Your burst DPS should be higher than that. Your DPS looks pretty good to me. I roughly hit that much also under those conditions. Procs and crits heavily determine it, but on a really good parse I can stay past 1100+.
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Might want to check the parse if it is detecting Wildfire. Your burst DPS should be higher than that. Your DPS looks pretty good to me. I roughly hit that much also under those conditions. Procs and crits heavily determine it, but on a really good parse I can stay past 1100+.
    Wildfire was accounted for, but don't know if it factored into the parse or not. I did notice a couple of times Wildfire went off and my dps didn't budge, which makes no sense. I don't have a ton of luck with Wildfires. I think my highest burst was in A4 where I hit 8.5k with no food or pots and a drg. On one of my parses today, I hit like 5200 on the opener, despite a perfect rotation and then later in the same fight, I messed up a bit and hit 6900. It just seems very random for me. I've been practicing multiple opening rotations, but without pots or anything else, I can't seem to break more than 7.2k with with most around 6.8k.

    Guess I'll just keep practicing. Next time I'll try it with some food and maybe I'll head to Tailfeather so I can use my chocobo for the dex buff.
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    Sephaistos Eum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    Wildfire was accounted for, but don't know if it factored into the parse or not. I did notice a couple of times Wildfire went off and my dps didn't budge, which makes no sense. I don't have a ton of luck with Wildfires. I think my highest burst was in A4 where I hit 8.5k with no food or pots and a drg. On one of my parses today, I hit like 5200 on the opener, despite a perfect rotation and then later in the same fight, I messed up a bit and hit 6900. It just seems very random for me. I've been practicing multiple opening rotations, but without pots or anything else, I can't seem to break more than 7.2k with with most around 6.8k.

    Guess I'll just keep practicing. Next time I'll try it with some food and maybe I'll head to Tailfeather so I can use my chocobo for the dex buff.
    Ive noticed that using pingzapper made my opener alot smoother. Before I had pretty often those casts that get interrupted or start a bit late but now i'm consistently getting good WFs
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    Quote Originally Posted by zandervont View Post
    Ive noticed that using pingzapper made my opener alot smoother. Before I had pretty often those casts that get interrupted or start a bit late but now i'm consistently getting good WFs
    My ping is usually between 15-30 ms, sometimes hitting about 50. I can't get much better than that (and I wouldn't want to pay to do so).
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    You guys should probably stop being pissy with each other. This thread has taken a major nosedive.
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    Axiom Jidoor
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    Machinist Lv 60
    http://i.imgur.com/9ZCVgh9.png Relic(?)

    I dig the grip not big into those barrels tho.
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    Myon Miya
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    Viper Lv 100
    That oversized hammer is a little iffy for me but overall I like it.

    My pet peeve is guns that look like they'd break if you tried to hit someone with them, I prefer them to look a bit solid. If you head over to Idyllshire and look at the 210 Gordian Musketoon you'll see what I mean, it almost looks like a better stabbing weapon than a gun.
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I would have preferred to see a nice gunblade. I've been glamming my guns to look like Blue Steel because it's the closest I've found.
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