It's Time To Wake up

[Asierid]

This was brought up back in beta, and the developers were pretty much saying "yeah, it's better if you don't know the percentages based off of value". On some level I think they don't want theorycrafters to accurately derive stuff (the way WoW theorycrafters could tell you how much defense rating you needed as a tank to become uncritable) to retain some semblance of control over the game. Hiding the effects of stats also makes subtle changes and nerfs to things much less noticeable.

The best part about this is that it's nothing but a cheesy excuse.

You can already get pretty accurate numbers just by putting in the effort/time and testing them. We already have a pretty good idea on what the stat weights are, accuracy caps, how certain abilities stack, etc. Anyone who has even touched an MMO before stats were common knows that these things are relatively "simple" (Take some time and some math) given that you have access to a combat log.

They're just making things harder to discuss with the players for no reason. Not like they ever discuss changes and the like with us anyway...

[HorseBoots]

[Mindylou]

[Miscreant]

Skill bloat is having TOO many skills that are largely redundant and not fun. Yes, skills can be useful, but when you have multiple cds that just do a hit on a 15-90 sec cd, have a different flavor of "Do Bonus Damage" or are just not pressed (see feint, haymaker, arrow volley/quick nock, blood for blood/raging strikes, Sidewinder and every other ability that 60+ sec that just does damage for examples).

Yawn...another player who hasn't really done any serious end game content complaining about a game they have only half played and skills that are necessary in serious end game content. Abilities with similar effects are needed, some times you pop all of your abilities in succession some times you space them out, fights vary, rotations vary. Half of the skill in this game is tracking those multiple skills and knowing the right time to use them.

That Quelling Strikes thing made me laugh though...I'm guessing you haven't seen a Black Mage rip mobs off a tank before.

[Fendred]

Yawn...another player who hasn't really done any serious end game content complaining about a game they have only half played and skills that are necessary in serious end game content. Abilities with similar effects are needed, some times you pop all of your abilities in succession some times you space them out, fights vary, rotations vary. Half of the skill in this game is tracking those multiple skills and knowing the right time to use them.

That Quelling Strikes thing made me laugh though...I'm guessing you haven't seen a Black Mage rip mobs off a tank before.

You are a scholar. Healers and tanks do not have the problem damage dealers have in this game. The situation is that the damage dealers require more concerted effort to play to max efficiency than tanks or healers. Not only this, but it acts as a soft cap on play time for the damage dealers. My friend is a dragoon and I'm currently playing ninja. We both tried to do a speed run with a friendly tank and healer. Both of them were willing to go for 2-4 more runs while us two DD were ready to vomit and pass out from just doing 1 1/2 runs of Expert Roulette. To clarify, we were trying to speed run stuff at maximum efficiency. The only other game that exhausted me in this way was Wild Star, and that was during raids. Half the raid would be passed out before we could finish the first boss, only at least there it felt satisfying, while here we're now in conflict with the other two roles over how long we can play.

Edit: Also, Wild Star flopped hard.

[Kaurie]

revamping the gear system to include a variety of stats is pointless becuase it'll create another problem armoury bloat.
I think the main problem is there isn't enough variety of content and mini games.
There has to be some form of character progression post level cap to keep players busy.

Just because a change creates a new problem does not make the change pointless. It simply means you either need to a) change your plan or b) address the new problem before you implement the change.

For my personal game experience, I would not suffer from armoury bloat, but I understand that it may for some - especially crafter/gatherers.

[Dyvid]

First I have to ask, is swiftcast and protect really a thing on BRD? Also the contradictions of complaints about cross class abilities follows up with complaints about restrictions.

[Yesui]

First I have to ask, is swiftcast and protect really a thing on BRD? Also the contradictions of complaints about cross class abilities follows up with complaints about restrictions.

Considering Bards can't even cross-class those abilities, I doubt it.

[Khemorex]

i think if i had to press only 11111 everytime id fall asleep pretty quick :P

[Malevicton]

blorp

If you were trying to speedrun a dungeon at "maximum efficiency" why were you on drg/nin >.<