It's Time To Wake up

[Fendred]

Yawn...another player who hasn't really done any serious end game content complaining about a game they have only half played and skills that are necessary in serious end game content. Abilities with similar effects are needed, some times you pop all of your abilities in succession some times you space them out, fights vary, rotations vary. Half of the skill in this game is tracking those multiple skills and knowing the right time to use them.

That Quelling Strikes thing made me laugh though...I'm guessing you haven't seen a Black Mage rip mobs off a tank before.

You are a scholar. Healers and tanks do not have the problem damage dealers have in this game. The situation is that the damage dealers require more concerted effort to play to max efficiency than tanks or healers. Not only this, but it acts as a soft cap on play time for the damage dealers. My friend is a dragoon and I'm currently playing ninja. We both tried to do a speed run with a friendly tank and healer. Both of them were willing to go for 2-4 more runs while us two DD were ready to vomit and pass out from just doing 1 1/2 runs of Expert Roulette. To clarify, we were trying to speed run stuff at maximum efficiency. The only other game that exhausted me in this way was Wild Star, and that was during raids. Half the raid would be passed out before we could finish the first boss, only at least there it felt satisfying, while here we're now in conflict with the other two roles over how long we can play.

Edit: Also, Wild Star flopped hard.

[Malevicton]

blorp

If you were trying to speedrun a dungeon at "maximum efficiency" why were you on drg/nin >.<

[Miscreant]

You are a scholar. Healers and tanks do not have the problem damage dealers have in this game. The situation is that the damage dealers require more concerted effort to play to max efficiency than tanks or healers. Not only this, but it acts as a soft cap on play time for the damage dealers.

LMAO that's got to be the stupidest thing I've heard today! You're talking like I've never played as a dps before. Either way as a Scholar I'm expected to heal, deal a decent amount of damage and handle a large portion of the mechanics in Savage. I'm not going to say Ninja is easy, but you have a hell of a lot less to deal with than a healer or a tank.

Also speed running is harder on tanks and healers, they were probably just better than you...

[Fendred]

LMAO that's got to be the stupidest thing I've heard today! You're talking like I've never played as a dps before. Either way as a Scholar I'm expected to heal, deal a decent amount of damage and handle a large portion of the mechanics in Savage. I'm not going to say Ninja is easy, but you have a hell of a lot less to deal with than a healer or a tank.

Also speed running is harder on tanks and healers, they were probably just better than you...

Right back at you, considering the entirety of the forums seems to disagree with you. Not to mention I've played all three roles across both expansions, so I have a pretty good feel for the difficulty of each and how much that changes with the extra abilities. The only reason you're probably saying that at all is because you play scholar, which is a pet class and arguably the hardest of the three healers to run. Granted I'm assuming that it is harder than astrologian.

[DreameR7g]

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Logical Fallacy: Argumentum ad populum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

I would have to agree with Miscreant though. DPS do have less responsibility than the other roles since all they need to do is optimize damage and know mechanics. Now, I'm not saying either is easy (although it can be depending on perspective) but Tanks and Healers do have more responsbility than DPS do.

[Dyvid]

First I have to ask, is swiftcast and protect really a thing on BRD? Also the contradictions of complaints about cross class abilities follows up with complaints about restrictions.

[Yesui]

First I have to ask, is swiftcast and protect really a thing on BRD? Also the contradictions of complaints about cross class abilities follows up with complaints about restrictions.

Considering Bards can't even cross-class those abilities, I doubt it.

[Khemorex]

i think if i had to press only 11111 everytime id fall asleep pretty quick :P

[Dante_V]

The game is fine to me. Although I do agree on the necessity of a private damage meter.