"Please Kick Me..." - Just Take Your Penalty

[Syrehn]

maybe said individual and yourself or another member of the party arent getting along. maybe they are trying to be mature about it and askin to be removed from a tense situation. why not just kick said individual so everyone can go back to pretending to be happy. move forward, carry on with ur lives instead of dragging a situation out making it inevitably WORSE ON EVERYONE.
sometimes u just got to suck up ur pride and look forward or be stubborn with your boots stuck in the mud

If they are unhappy they can leave just as easily as they joined without forcing someone in the party to consume a vote kick so they don't get a penalty. If the group is that bad there is also always "vote abandon".

[Kolaina]

If they are unhappy they can leave just as easily as they joined without forcing someone in the party to consume a vote kick so they don't get a penalty. If the group is that bad there is also always "vote abandon".

maybe its the groups attitude thats bad. so should the victim of this be forced to endure a penalty because of a toxic community?

[Assirra]

maybe its the groups attitude thats bad. so should the victim of this be forced to endure a penalty because of a toxic community?

Your example is getting sillier and sillier.

We went from "person asks vote kick to dodge penalty" to "poor victim lands in groups of assholes and needs to be protected by the system".

[Kolaina]

Your example is getting sillier and sillier.

We went from "person asks vote kick to dodge penalty" to "poor victim lands in groups of assholes and needs to be protected by the system".

dodging penalty is only an example OP used to give back bone to their argument. im trying to say there are justified reasons to allow someone to get the kick they requested. im not going to hold any individual or a run hostage because im too stubborn to just let someone go. it impedes myself and the 2 to 6 others i am with because i am seeking justice demanding they accept punishment

[Assirra]

dodging penalty is only an example OP used to give back bone to their argument. im trying to say there are justified reasons to allow someone to get the kick they requested. im not going to hold any individual or a run hostage because im too stubborn to just let someone go. it impedes myself and the 2 to 6 others i am with because i am seeking justice demanding they accept punishment

You are trying to justify the real toxic in the community. The people that can and will use and abuse game mechanics to have it their way. What i do is completely following the system and i am not holding anyone hostage at all. The person can leave if he wants...but he has to eat a penalty.
I love how you try to turn me into the bad guy when the other person is actively breaking the rules of the game.

[Kolaina]

I love how you try to turn me into the bad guy when the other person is actively breaking the rules of the game.

except i have been speaking in a general sense this whole time and you just took it as a personal attack. this is the real toxic in the community. this everything being taken so personal non-sense. ima go play the game now. enjoy your night <3

[Syrehn]

maybe its the groups attitude thats bad. so should the victim of this be forced to endure a penalty because of a toxic community?

I'm really tired of seeing "toxic community" get thrown around all willy nilly. It is not toxic to expect someone who's queue'd up for a roulette or pvp to stay for the run. If they leave before it's completed there is a penalty; that's what the system is there for.

If someone gets into a run and sees that it's a dungeon they don't like, or their GC is losing in pvp, and asks to get vote kicked so they don't get a penalty timer when they go to re-queue that's cherry picking a group. It's not toxic of the rest of the party to not want to consume their limited vote kick abilities on these players.

One of my suggestions was to make a vote kick penalty timer to help circumvent this behaviour but there was also another good suggestion of an inactivity timer that would trigger a kick with a penalty.

This is an open discussion and it's nice to hear all sides regardless of if I agree with them personally or not.