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    Dervy's Avatar
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Big thanks to Scylla Messina. I now have a roughly working damage formula for you Summoners:

    =ROUNDDOWN(((POTENCY/100)*(MD*0.0394452+1)*(INT*0.1218814)*(DET*0.0001295+1)*BUFFS)-3)

    Only works for spells, sorry book-whackers. No info on Pets either.

    Getting closer to finishing off my Summoner Rotation model as well. Summoner is so haaaarrdddd
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    Last edited by Dervy; 08-16-2015 at 06:31 AM.

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    Charybdis's Avatar
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    Charybdis Messina
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    Siren
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Big thanks to Scylla Messina. I now have a roughly working damage formula for you Summoners:

    =ROUNDDOWN(((POTENCY/100)*(MD*0.0394452+1)*(INT*0.1218814)*(DET*0.0001295+1)*BUFFS)-3)

    Only works for spells, sorry book-whackers. No info on Pets either.

    Getting closer to finishing off my Summoner Rotation model as well. Summoner is so haaaarrdddd
    Scylla Messina (reddit username) here! Just happy to help for all the summoners. Don't post much on the official forums but I lurk! Excited to see the numbers when it's all said and done. Been curious about how spell speed affects our pets but it seems that spell speed will end up being really low for us even WITH it affecting them on top of dots.
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    Minorinz's Avatar
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    Yuni Azure
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    lol why do u lurk at the dummies but never hit 'em? <_<
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Creepin' and lurkin'. The Dummies are my home bois.
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    A4S ACC cap is probably 540. Haven't missed all night, have missed at 537. I'll update if I miss, otherwise it's 540ish.
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    A4S ACC cap is probably 540. Haven't missed all night, have missed at 537. I'll update if I miss, otherwise it's 540ish.
    Wow that is low.

    So only like 5% difference between A1S->A4S

    My estimate of 9% was way too high then.

    Good to know cause that opens up some great gear options.
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    Kanri Kaenan
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Wow that is low.

    So only like 5% difference between A1S->A4S

    My estimate of 9% was way too high then.

    Good to know cause that opens up some great gear options.
    Hold your horses before you jump into any gear buying fits though.

    In A4S the legs don't have a front nor flank, normal accuracy rules don't apply here.
    (I havent missed at all with 490 accuracy as BLM. => The legs have no/marginal accuracy requirements.)

    Unless you're on final phase you won't really know the requirements.
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    Philia Felice
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaeifer View Post
    Hold your horses before you jump into any gear buying fits though.

    In A4S the legs don't have a front nor flank, normal accuracy rules don't apply here.
    (I havent missed at all with 490 accuracy as BLM. => The legs have no/marginal accuracy requirements.)

    Unless you're on final phase you won't really know the requirements.
    I've missed with 537 (usually every run I tried 537 I'd miss once or twice), on the legs, so you've just either had very little time as 490 ACC testing or you're quite lucky. 540 hasn't ever missed over hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Minorinz View Post
    We need a smn dps leaderboard or something
    Comps are way too varied for this to even matter. Doubly so if AST gets mega buffed in 3.06 or 3.1.

    DPS leaderboards in general are pretty dumb, and I say this as someone who tries my best to do the most DPS I can.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 08-19-2015 at 03:06 AM.

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    Shinryu Reishiki
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    Ultros
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Comps are way too varied for this to even matter. Doubly so if AST gets mega buffed in 3.06 or 3.1.

    DPS leaderboards in general are pretty dumb, and I say this as someone who tries my best to do the most DPS I can.
    They are rather pointless. Even with the same composition, numbers could be wildly different because of the performance/gear of the other members, strategies utilized, and so forth. That said, it is a bit fun to compete, even if it's ultimately proving nothing.

    Personally, having a leaderboard for Final Coil helped me "stay in shape" once everything was on farm; it's easy to get sloppy when your playtime changes from several hours several nights a week to an hour once a week.
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Yea the ones that increase dps by 0.5%!
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