If you don't have a house and complaining ...

[Intaki]

I remember how WoW scrubs cried that they pay subscription, yet can't experience raid content since it's too hard to do and requires a raid party.
Devs caved in and made WoW casual-friendly.

Good to know that these players are still around.

Being accessible does not mean being easy. A player can walk into a raid whenever they want (whether or not they are prepared for the content); the same can not be said of purchasing a house.

[StouterTaru]

Being accessible does not mean being easy. A player can walk into a raid whenever they want (whether or not they are prepared for the content); the same can not be said of purchasing a house.

A player can also join a FC that has a house any whenever they want.

[Intaki]

A player can also join a FC that has a house any whenever they want.

How does joining an FC give a player access to personal housing? And for that matter, creating one's own FC does not allow one to access FC housing either. Your solution is essentially to kowtow to a group of strangers and hope they deign to allow you to benefit from their house (which in the case of gardens, you likely won't).

Why do you expect to get a welfare house like it's some sort of food stamp? Work for it.

I appreciate people like this being upfront about their lack of intelligence. It's so nice of them to let everyone else know off the bat that their opinions don't merit value or consideration.

[StouterTaru]

How does joining an FC give a player access to personal housing? And for that matter, creating one's own FC does not allow one to access FC housing either. Your solution is essentially to kowtow to a group of strangers and hope they deign to allow you to benefit from their house (which in the case of gardens, you likely won't).

Joining a FC with housing lets you do everything and more compared to having a personal house.

If you think gardening is something fun you would like to try, you have no idea what goes into it.

• You don't have the time or patience to save up the gil to buy a house off someone? You'll hate gardening.
• You don't have the gil to buy a house off someone? You can't afford gardening.
• You think you can make money gardening? You clearly haven't checked the MB for gardening things since HW came out.

[Intaki]

None of that has anything to do with my core argument: game content must be readily accessible. Under the current system it is not.

Accessibility does not mean ease. Much like how raids take a considerable amount of time or effort to complete even though anyone can step into them as long as the basic prereqs are met. If houses were unlimited in number but cost 100+ million gil to purchase they would fall under the definition of accessibility which the current housing system does not.

You also seem to fail to grasp the fact that the majority of complaints about housing have little to do with the actual costs of housing and its mechanics. The only time costs factors into the complaints is as it relates to scumbag players abusing a broken system for their personal benefit.

[StouterTaru]

None of that has anything to do with my core argument: game content must be readily accessible. Under the current system it is not.

Except it is, through FC housing. What exactly do you have a personal house for that you can't do in a FC?

[Intaki]

What exactly do you have a personal house for that you can't do in a FC?

You mean other than owning your own house, having full control over that house, and not having to worry about FC shenanigans suddenly making all your investments into your FC house/personal room disappear into the aether?

[Naunet]

Joining a FC with housing lets you do everything and more compared to having a personal house.

Can you decorate it to your personal tastes? Are you free from worrying about any future FC implosions? Do you have unrestricted access to housing-locked features?

Nope and nope and nope.

[StouterTaru]

Can you decorate it to your personal tastes? Are you free from worrying about any future FC implosions? Do you have unrestricted access to housing-locked features?

Nope and nope and nope.

1 - Yes (private rooms)
2 - Are you free from any worries at any time anywhere with anything?
3 - Like what, airship building and gardening? Airships can't be done in personal, gardening I explained already.

[Naunet]

1 - Yes (private rooms)
2 - Are you free from any worries at any time anywhere with anything?
3 - Like what, airship building and gardening? Airships can't be done in personal, gardening I explained already.

You cannot decorate the FC house. A tiny room =/= a house. AND you will lose that room and lots of things in it if you at any point need to leave the FC/the FC falls apart.

Your response to the second question is nonsensical. FC troubles directly impact housing for an FC's members.

As for number three, the fact that there are actually things inaccessible is the entire point. You claim you can do everything "and more" by just being part of an FC with a house... I pointed out how utterly false that claim is.