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    Naztalgic's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Wait...people use Mercy Strokes?
    It's an OGCD with a potency of 200. Why wouldn't you use it?
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naztalgic View Post
    It's an OGCD with a potency of 200. Why wouldn't you use it?
    It requires the enemy to have less than 20% HP left, and has a 1 minute 30 second cooldown. Until the enemy is under 20% it's useless, and the cooldown is 50 seconds longer than Assassinate, which is a 40s cooldown for the same potency (minus the healing if it kills). When it becomes useable, you get maybe 1-2 uses on a boss and that's it. So yeah, I find it pretty useless as a cross-class.
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It requires the enemy to have less than 20% HP left, and has a 1 minute 30 second cooldown. Until the enemy is under 20% it's useless, and the cooldown is 50 seconds longer than Assassinate, which is a 40s cooldown for the same potency (minus the healing if it kills). When it becomes useable, you get maybe 1-2 uses on a boss and that's it. So yeah, I find it pretty useless as a cross-class.
    And what would you take instead?
    Mercy stroke is an amazing off global, you also gotta concider that there is not only the boss in a raid but adds too and it helps finishing them faster too.
    I get plenty uses of Mercy Stroke and it's a free 200 potency.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    And what would you take instead?
    Mercy stroke is an amazing off global, you also gotta concider that there is not only the boss in a raid but adds too and it helps finishing them faster too.
    I get plenty uses of Mercy Stroke and it's a free 200 potency.
    I use Foresight instead. The only way I would take that skill is either if the cooldown was lowered to at most a minute, or if it could be used whenever. I still question the developers using it as a cross-class skill considering Misery's End and Assassinate cannot be cross-classed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I use Foresight instead. The only way I would take that skill is either if the cooldown was lowered to at most a minute, or if it could be used whenever. I still question the developers using it as a cross-class skill considering Misery's End and Assassinate cannot be cross-classed...
    Foresight is even more of a useless skill compared to mercy stroke hell look at A1 you can use it on the adds and the boss when its sub 20%
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    Maximillion Xameht
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I use Foresight instead.

    You use foresight on what exactly? Throughout all of 2.0 and all the 3.0 level 60 fights, there is only one fight where a monk would take unavoidable physical damage where mitigation would be useful(t13's earthshakers). Anything else you could be hit by is magical, which foresight doesn't work on, or avoidable.
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    Naesala L'arachel
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I use Foresight instead. The only way I would take that skill is either if the cooldown was lowered to at most a minute, or if it could be used whenever. I still question the developers using it as a cross-class skill considering Misery's End and Assassinate cannot be cross-classed...
    ...what's the point of foresight? Keen flurry is superior.

    Quote Originally Posted by Royin View Post
    How much dps should you be doing as a MNK on a single target in Alex 1 Savage?
    On a single target? Faust? 1200 or so.


    The fight itself is not single target, but a kill run should end up with a melee at 900+ at least. Depending on party setup/pots/food/luck you can reach 1100, but you should get a kill before you master the fight to that extent.
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    Royin Aesir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humorless View Post
    On a single target? Faust? 1200 or so.
    The fight itself is not single target, but a kill run should end up with a melee at 900+ at least. Depending on party setup/pots/food/luck you can reach 1100, but you should get a kill before you master the fight to that extent.
    Alright I'm good then. For some reason people are claiming they deal 1400-1500 dps on just Faust, but I'm fairly certain the add up the AoE damage.
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royin View Post
    Alright I'm good then. For some reason people are claiming they deal 1400-1500 dps on just Faust, but I'm fairly certain the add up the AoE damage.
    Anyone getting 1400-1500 on Faust with current gearing (~i185-187) is getting AoE splash. On a solid run with little to no AoE splash you could can get 1300+ with some good crits, but not 1400+.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 07-28-2015 at 12:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It requires the enemy to have less than 20% HP left, and has a 1 minute 30 second cooldown. Until the enemy is under 20% it's useless, and the cooldown is 50 seconds longer than Assassinate, which is a 40s cooldown for the same potency (minus the healing if it kills). When it becomes useable, you get maybe 1-2 uses on a boss and that's it. So yeah, I find it pretty useless as a cross-class.
    You've never gone into Alexander savage, I guess?


    And what is the alternative? Feint? Flurry? Foresight?
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