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  1. #241
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    AldricBranchais's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Alis Cefr
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vulpes_Viridis View Post
    I would be interested to know how to calculate stats. I have an idea how to estimate WD, DET, CRIT but don't know how SS is evaluated.
    I know Dots are affected, but it's not only about dots I guess.

    EDIT: Nevermind, found something helpful here
    http://valk.dancing-mad.com/
    Please keep in mind, many of the formulas and concepts I present on this website are not the true in-game formulas. The goal of this website is to provide a useful tool to help end-game players make better, more informed decisions about improving their characters and gameplay.

    Update 2.0.2 (November 30, 2013)
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    Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference.

  2. #242
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    Laur1x's Avatar
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    Ryomou Shimei
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    For those of you with Hive and that are ilvl ~185, how are you competing with DRGs and NINs?

    I was originally going to go MNK before HW, but last minute went with NIN. Fun play-style, but I'm frustrated with the amount of NINs (could just be my server) and that it's rough and requires flawless execution and low mudra lag to push 1200+.
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  3. #243
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    Humorless's Avatar
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    Character
    Naesala L'arachel
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    i185 or i186, ~1200 on dummy quite easily. Pretty much equal with the DRG in my group w/o counting the bard's damage in A1 savage.


    Don't have much else for reference since pf/df melee all suck balls.
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  4. #244
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    Atreides's Avatar
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Laur1x View Post
    For those of you with Hive and that are ilvl ~185, how are you competing with DRGs and NINs?

    I was originally going to go MNK before HW, but last minute went with NIN. Fun play-style, but I'm frustrated with the amount of NINs (could just be my server) and that it's rough and requires flawless execution and low mudra lag to push 1200+.
    It's just like that on my server too, Ninja is the most overplayed melee but that might be due to the fact that their utility outsthines DRG and MNK with MNK being the least useful for a raidgroup now.
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  5. #245
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    Ipkonfig's Avatar
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    Ulfheonar Wolfhiem
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    I'm switching from tank to MNK for my group. A lot of hate on MNK utility, does noone remember T13? Where Dragon Kick was just fantastic? On top of Savage A1 having 2 mobs that both do a 25k magic damage tank buster, DRK tanking one and MNK on the other for double INT down, and then into the jump/landing phase the party damage is just huge so Mantra will be incredible. Honestly until everyone starts to out gear Savage MNKs defensive utility will be invaluable
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  6. #246
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    Victorixvii's Avatar
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    Jess Victorix
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Laur1x View Post
    snip
    Although A top tier Dragoon or Top tier Ninja can and will beat monk in most fights if played correctly (ninja isnt so far ahead if there is no Warrior) but monk Single target damage is still very close to said classes.
    for example i have been parsing for 1250-1300 on faust (not clipping adds with aoes) A1 im down to last 10% and im holding from 970-1000+
    And A3 Normal Im doing 940+ on a good run a4 normal 1100+ and there are monks that are doing slightly more than my current best on a 4min dummy fight im pulling around 1270 maybe with good crit rng 1300 lol and i know Dragoons can pull even more than 1300 right now
    All monk is in need of is some kinda new raid dps ability then we would be golden.
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  8. #247
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    Laur1x's Avatar
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    Character
    Ryomou Shimei
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    So, how important is it to cross-class for Mercy Stroke? I read the tidbit about fracture in the guide, but saw nothing about MS.
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  9. #248
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    monchkinz's Avatar
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    Character
    Enma Hellbringer
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    Sephirot
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Laur1x View Post
    So, how important is it to cross-class for Mercy Stroke? I read the tidbit about fracture in the guide, but saw nothing about MS.
    It should be on your cross class since there's no other good cross class skill to put. Its a dps increase.

    Invigorate
    Blood for blood
    Fracture
    Mercy stroke
    Bloodbath

    Are my preference for my cross class
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  10. #249
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Character
    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Wait...people use Mercy Strokes?
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  11. #250
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    Ossom's Avatar
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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 53
    Yes Mercy Stroke should be on your hotbar, and IMHO in progression it is mandatory.
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