Astro in savage

[starLivitation]

so if i get this right the OP and his supporters, want AST to have equal healing power to WHM or SCH, but give more dps to the raid than both? how is that gona be ballanced? and would the other jobs have the same problem if the AST has their healing power + more DPS? what would be the point to play SCH or WHM then?

[MistralLevante]

so if i get this right the OP and his supporters, want AST to have equal healing power to WHM or SCH, but give more dps to the raid than both? how is that gona be ballanced? and would the other jobs have the same problem if the AST has their healing power + more DPS? what would be the point to play SCH or WHM then?

Their specific wants may be too much, but the general opinion of the raiding community seems to be that AST is not exactly in a great place right now either.

[DarkmoonVael]

so if i get this right the OP and his supporters, want AST to have equal healing power to WHM or SCH, but give more dps to the raid than both? how is that gona be ballanced? and would the other jobs have the same problem if the AST has their healing power + more DPS? what would be the point to play SCH or WHM then?

Ah no, a little bit of a misunderstanding here. What is being argued by the majority of the people here is that AST, as a healer first and foremost, needs to heal to the same capacity as a WHM or SCH to be viable in end game content.

The issue centering around DPS stem from the fact that SCH can put out a beastly amount of DPS itself as well as buffing their parties DPS (fey wind). It has emergency, instacast heals to facilitate the stance dancing.

Likewise WHM, with its new found lvl 52-60 abilities, can do beastly DPS in a raid, which is again facilitated by it powerfuly emergency heals.

AST at the moment can not bring much DPS to a raid, lacking the ability to quickly regain the healing situation once cleric stance is dropped, and its buffs are weaker than the SCH in terms of over all contribution to raid DPS.

Ther are lots of suggetsions on this thread. Some centre around the increase of AST support capabilities so the AST can increase the DPS of others to counteract the shortfall of overall DPS due to AST struggling to DPS itself. Some centre around increasing the number of emergency heals an AST has, thus facilitating the AST stance dancing and contribution to overall group DPS. Other are a hybrid of the pervious 2.

But, more than anything, the majority of people seem (feel free for anyone to disagree with me here, after all not everyone has the same opinion) to acknowledge the need to increase the AST healing capacity, healing cooldowns and emergency heal ability to make it a healer that is as viable in end game content as WHM and SCH currently are.

[RichardButte]

so if i get this right the OP and his supporters, want AST to have equal healing power to WHM or SCH, but give more dps to the raid than both? how is that gona be ballanced? and would the other jobs have the same problem if the AST has their healing power + more DPS? what would be the point to play SCH or WHM then?

That's really not what anyone's asking for.

No one wants AST to be overpowered by having godly heals and godly buffs (not anyone in their right mind, anyway), but AST either needs to bring as much to a raid as SCH/WHM do or there's no point in ever bringing one, ever.

The buffs are pretty damn terrible right now, but making them more potent isn't going to make the AST better at keeping people alive or anything so I don't personally think that's the route to go.