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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    The 10% chance at boosting DPS for 15 seconds comes at the cost of a 1 in 6 chance to get that ability, which averages out to a 1.67% DPS boost on one player per minute. It would have to be closer to a 40-60% DPS increase for 15 seconds to actually be worth anything, but as you said, people would cry OP because they don't understand how statistics work...
    Uh, Richard, no offense, but I think you need to stop talking about math ^^; You're kinda putting a foot in your mouth with this assessment as you're showing you don't really understand how math works either .-. Again, no offense, and again, not trying to make you sound terrible.

    I give you a minor correction that is in your favour though.

    The actual increase to a personal player's DPS with Balance is 0.835% because it's a 10% boost at a 1/6 chance (10% * [ 1/6 ] = 1.67%) that has an up time of 15 second for every 30 seconds due to Draw's cooldown (1.67% * [15 / 30] ) = 0.835%).

    There's a lot more statistical factors that need to be considered for proper card analysis and while the other effects from Draw do not directly affect DPS, they do indirectly affect them and change how you can play an AST. For example, Spear on a DRG or MCN will provide a small DPS increase because it'll generally be up when Jump / Quick Reload goes on cooldown. Any other ability they get with Spear is just a bonus past that. Likewise, as mentioned earlier in the post, Arrow is much more useful for a MNK / NIN than it is for other DPS classes.

    The math isn't hard to do, but getting it "correct" is the hard part - and can also be left to interpretation on a per player basis. And doing all the potential permutations of card draws is a time consuming process.

    Overall, the more I think about it, the happier I am with how the card system is. It needs a few minor tweaks - my gut instinct tells me increasing Balance and Arrow by 2% would be nice,or reducing Draw to a 20-25s CD would be great too.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 07-25-2015 at 03:22 AM.