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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Tell that to the people who stood up against slavery, or to the people who fought to stop the Holocaust when it looked like the war was lost. Things worked out for them and wouldn't have if they had your attitude!

    If you admit defeat, defeat is what you'll get. Not victory, not even compromise. Defeat. Opposition to the cash shop is probably the only reason it hasn't exploded into more than it is right now. But you do you!
    Really? your talking about slavery? when this was only about a games cash shop lolllll jeez
    I'm sure you also realize that content is pumped out every 3 months here and not like other MMOs around 6 months to a year
    That seems to slide by ppl lol wait until the day Yoshi P says it will take them 6 months for new stuff :P
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    Last edited by SakuraMidori; 07-24-2015 at 01:19 AM.

  2. #72
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    It's been nearly a year since Sleipnir mount was released in the cash shop, at most i can see it going on sale for it's anniversary.

    I do think SE/the devs are testing the waters to see what they can or can't get away with.

    The Sleipnir mount caused quite the stir when 1st announced almost a year ago

    Since then we've:
    1. Not seen anymore dyes in the cash shop. The pastel dyes being obtainable via retainer ventures
    2. More Scion minions
    3. Previous events items in the cash shop
    4. No more mounts in cash shop despite there being so many obtainable in game. Post Sleipnir debacle we've had: Shiva pony, Kirin, Node, Fenrir, Gil Turtle, black chocobo and Midgardsomnr.
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    Last edited by myahele; 07-24-2015 at 05:14 AM.

  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhikail View Post
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    To each their own, lol. Don't get riled up on my behalf. I have just as much right to throw my opinion in as you do, even if you don't like it or care about it. I'm not pretending to be or say anything false. Take it however you want. Good for you for having your own set of priorities. I have mine as well, and it sure as heck isn't sitting here slamming my head against a wall trying to convince you specifically of anything. Get over it, I'm done posting about it anymore.

    To quote you yourself "freedom of speech!" don't like it? Then kindly look the other way. I'm not going to stoop and tell you to buzz off. As I've said we all get to voice our opinion's. But just for the sake of your so called freedom of speech, I'll delete a majority of my posts, seeing how they apparently offend. Freedoms and all. That only applies to the U.S. in most cases FYI, the rest of the world isn't as forthcoming. I wouldn't want to impede upon your freedoms now, so there, deleted, I made my point.

    Just because you cannot, or choose not to handle it is in no way MY fault. It's a video game. I have my own things in life to prioritize, than sitting here on this forum, bickering with you. I have two kids. I also have a wife. I also have a job. I like spending my money on things I find worthwhile. Mounts are more than worthwhile, and they aren't gamebreaking. Dyes and Glamour gear is not worthwhile, and they aren't gamebreaking. Goodbye.
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    Last edited by Laerad3993; 07-24-2015 at 06:06 AM. Reason: My Freedoms

  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerad3993 View Post
    Let's come back to reality here. This is a game. This isn't a gulag, this isn't a concentration camp, so leave it out.
    Her point was very relevant, using real world comparisons. However I'll throw you a game comparison: You would not be playing this game right now if Yoshi, the Legacy players, and all the Final Fantasy fans out there didn't cry out for ARR's re-launch. If those people shared your thoughts, none of us would be playing this brilliant game right now.

    Also, to people say that "But you buy map packs on CoD! Same thing!" No. It's not, we don't pay them a monthly fee for additional content. That additional content(the map packs) is paid for, from the dev costs side, by the price we spend on them. We aren't paying them a fee to make new stuff, until after it's made and released. P2P MMO's....we're paying in advance for additional content/features with our monthly sub. Having what could be an awesome reward for grinding Odin....has turned into a 25 dollar purchase. 25 dollars for a horse. ....didn't Bethesda get blasted for charging 5 dollars for the same type of thing? ........................
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayanno View Post
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    25 dollars for a horse so? if your not buying it then who cares? and no it was not just the fans that made ARR's re-launch it was the fact there first take on ff14 online was so bad every game review and anyone with a brain called SE out saying the games crap {we still get fans on here to this day saying 1.0 was much better and they want it back} so id say they fans had a split on what they wanted. Anyway the cash shop hurts no one and is not doing any harm to this game SE is not adding anything in the shop that makes ppl use it a lot. Now if the day comes when SE starts doing everything via cash shop and brings out gear mounts i lvl pots weps and stuff that's game killing then sure it be bad id quit
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    Quote Originally Posted by SakuraMidori View Post
    Now if the day comes when SE starts doing everything via cash shop and brings out gear mounts i lvl pots weps and stuff that's game killing then sure it be bad id quit
    When that day comes it is TOO LATE to tell SE that the cash shop should not and MUST not be a main focus of development resources.

    I saw people saying the exact same thing as WoW's cash shop slowly grew. It was a very slow process, like a glacier moving - but look at it now. Seriously, go look right now at the mounts released for their cash shop in the past year, and the mounts released to be obtained in the game in the same time period.

    The very same thing has a significant possibility of happening here simply because "Company thinks of profits" is the same no matter what company you talk about, be it Blizzard or SE.
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    Nevermind this post.
    I can't tolerate whatshisface anymore and I'm not adding more to the flames of nothingness.
    Carry on.
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    Last edited by Mhikail; 07-24-2015 at 07:20 AM.

  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by SakuraMidori View Post
    25 dollars for a horse so? if your not buying it then who cares? and no it was not just the fans that made ARR's re-launch it was the fact there first take on ff14 online was so bad every game review and anyone with a brain called SE out saying the games crap {we still get fans on here to this day saying 1.0 was much better and they want it back} so id say they fans had a split on what they wanted. Anyway the cash shop hurts no one and is not doing any harm to this game SE is not adding anything in the shop that makes ppl use it a lot. Now if the day comes when SE starts doing everything via cash shop and brings out gear mounts i lvl pots weps and stuff that's game killing then sure it be bad id quit
    If someone wants spend 25 dollars to rent a pixelated virtual item that they lose the moment the servers shut down or they un-sub then fine, that is there choice. I cannot fathom how anyone can justify the price of a mount. Just me though. And no, I can afford it just fine.

    ....you do realize the huge gamble SE took relaunching the game right? It was so horribly received that, 95% of companies would have cut their losses and moved on. SE didn't give up like so many other companies would have, and they didn't give up in large part because of Yoshi, the Legacy players, and the FF fans that asked for it so much.

    That was kinda my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SakuraMidori View Post
    Really? your talking about slavery? when this was only about a games cash shop lolllll jeez That seems to slide by ppl lol wait until the day Yoshi P says it will take them 6 months for new stuff :P
    I think you missed the point, but oh well.

    People against slavery stopped slavery because they were not defeatists like the person I responded to. I was not comparing slavery to the cash shop, only comparing it to the defeatist attitude taken on by the person I was responding to.

    Defeatism would have meant their struggle against slavery would have been lost, defeatism would mean our struggle against an invasive cash shop would be lost. Same concept.

    Also like how you ignored my other video game specific examples :P anything to please the sensationalists though, right?

    My point stands, please do not draw attention away from that by going off topic.
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    Last edited by Adire; 07-24-2015 at 09:49 AM.

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