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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Primary > CRT > DET > SS. SS should be just behind DET as majority of your damage is DoT based but again, I'm no summoner so I don't know how much of an issue MP consumption is now for you all.
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    Mala Liath
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    Just want to point out that SMN is arguably the best DPS for A1S. The mobility and constant multidotting really shines on that fight. Even without a NIN/BRD/AST I was sitting at around 1180+.

    Melees have it the hardest on that fight in my opinion. Between having to dodge puddles, taking one add, dodging AOEs, it seems rough. BLM probably as well, still haven't tested it there.
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    Philia Felice
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Just want to point out that SMN is arguably the best DPS for A1S. The mobility and constant multidotting really shines on that fight. Even without a NIN/BRD/AST I was sitting at around 1180+.

    Melees have it the hardest on that fight in my opinion. Between having to dodge puddles, taking one add, dodging AOEs, it seems rough. BLM probably as well, still haven't tested it there.
    Sounds like all of Savage in all probability, TBH.
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    Kona Nightwind
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Just want to point out that SMN is arguably the best DPS for A1S. The mobility and constant multidotting really shines on that fight. Even without a NIN/BRD/AST I was sitting at around 1180+.

    Melees have it the hardest on that fight in my opinion. Between having to dodge puddles, taking one add, dodging AOEs, it seems rough. BLM probably as well, still haven't tested it there.
    You keeping dots up on both operators? And are you saving anything for adds? In normal I used to multi dot but pugs became so unreliable I just saved everything to burn 2 adds myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona_Nightwind View Post
    You keeping dots up on both operators? And are you saving anything for adds? In normal I used to multi dot but pugs became so unreliable I just saved everything to burn 2 adds myself.
    Yes, you can and should. My noob SMN tips for A1, day 1 of course:

    - Do a regular opener, not much need to save stuff here
    - For the first adds, if SCH Banes you can just Bane and use pet AoE and any additional help will kill it, you don't have to Deathflare. That said, you can Deathflare and Fester the boss instead, but you'll screw with your 3D timers - this is the option I went for because it was quicker and more consistent but probably hurt my sustained.
    - For the adds after you enter the split phase, you can Bane off of the boss, recommended to wait a second so the other person can pick up theirs first while receiving your Bane. To kill the adds themselves, Bane or just regular DoTing them + putting Garuda on Obey + one Fester is more than enough.
    - After adds you just multi-DoT. I actually had trouble day 1 keeping a cycle of 3 stacks = 1 DWT, the phase shift and the need to use stacks as you need them can be tricky and I didn't pay as close attention as I could have.
    - Keep up E4E, it's very helpful for this fight, it's a tough fight for the healers if the healers DPS + heal. You can Super-Virus the tank busters but depending on your strat only one Virus may be needed, and SCH can get them by himself.

    All I got. I didn't clear with a great number cause I died and LB3ed but it's clearly a phenomenal fight for SMN. I have a hard time envisioning BLM doing the adds as efficiently without having someone else place the adds, not something I think we should be doing in our gear if they're DPSing.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 07-22-2015 at 07:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
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    Thanks for the tips. For multi dotting, is better to use Tri-D on opposite target or saving it for DWT? I haven't done normal A1 much since I've gotten lucky on the drops. I start savage tomorrow, and was wondering if Garuda is the pet for this fight, for easy swapping to the adds.
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    Kicoe Vashai
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Just want to point out that SMN is arguably the best DPS for A1S. The mobility and constant multidotting really shines on that fight. Even without a NIN/BRD/AST I was sitting at around 1180+.

    Melees have it the hardest on that fight in my opinion. Between having to dodge puddles, taking one add, dodging AOEs, it seems rough. BLM probably as well, still haven't tested it there.
    1180 is very strong, do you have a parse screenshot of your kill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Primary > CRT > DET > SS. SS should be just behind DET as majority of your damage is DoT based but again, I'm no summoner so I don't know how much of an issue MP consumption is now for you all.
    I haven't ran in to a MP issue and I over spam R2. With all the down time in fights it's really not so far.
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    Yuni Azure
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    Spriggan
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Primary > CRT > DET > SS. SS should be just behind DET as majority of your damage is DoT based but again, I'm no summoner so I don't know how much of an issue MP consumption is now for you all.
    yup i'm going for crit>det/ss
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