So Thursday's maintenance is supposed to bring crafting/gardening adjustments...

[Dejectedbunny]

Well easy because PvE Players have no means to get these ridiculous amounts of Gil Crafters want from us. If i want to buy this crafted Shit i would be forced to do RMT. And Boy thats the last thing i want to do.

As opposed to soul binding gear for materia, completing challenge log entries, farming materials to sell on the MB, retainer ventures, gathering, desynthing, playing the MB, etc?

So it would be really good to flood the Market with easy Stuff. To Crush the Monopol or Oligarchy thats Active and make a Player friendly Economy.

So essentially, your complaint is that you have to actually work for your gil?

But this would hurt teh Crafters! Guess what...you Job is to support the Fighting Classes not bled em dry. Your Job is to provide crafted Stuff for those of us who have weeks long bad Drop Luck.

This has already been stated by previous posters, but allow me to reiterate... We're not required to support anyone. A large majority of us give away more gear and melds than we make to sell, but again that's something that each crafter chooses to do, not because we're obligated to.

Make Materials easy affordable and farmable and ruin this skyrocketed MB. Look at Warcraft. Ppl still Buy Crafted Stuff all Day and the Price is so low. Well Warcraft has a Garrison where you can make Gold. What do PvE Players have here to make Gil? Nothing.

Materials are easily farmable, it's just requires to you put forth some effort. As a side note, you do realize that the "skyrocketed" cost of materials on the MB only affects the crafters (aka the same group of people you are complaining about), right? Also bringing up WoW's crafting / AH system does nothing to strengthen your argument here. Crafting in that game consists solely of selecting an amount and hitting a single button. There are no HQ variations of the finished product and no where near the degree of complexity that FFXIV has for its crafting system. Not to mention, that game throws gear at you constantly (much like this one does) effectively eliminating the need for most crafted gear.

I rather jump the Grind Mill of Tomes again before i start with the radioactive Waste that is called "Crafting".

Again, you want the benefits of crafting, but don't want to put in the work yourself. If you don't agree with the prices, then make it yourself.

For Crafting you need to invest a Grand Sum first for perfect Melds on the Equip for the Equip itself and shit. Millions of Gil, because the System is not new and we are all friends. A new Player lvling Crafting means more Fighting over Selling. So lets make shit SO costly he will say "Fuck this shit" and leaves it alone so that you can get in all the profit. And im not talking about you personally im talking about crafters in general.

The System is broken and you know it. You just don't want to admit it because this would be the same as admitting you wasted your time on something thats broken for your own profit and that it needs to be corrected.

Funny, I didn't have to spend millions of gil to get all my crafts to 4 star level. I just put in the effort. Some choose to spend their gil to fast track equipping and melding their gear. Others choose to gather the materials and materia themselves. In the end, both are perfectly viable options. You keep trying to paint crafting as this exclusive club where you need to have X amount of gil to buy your way into it. Sorry to tell you, but that couldn't be further from the truth. It just requires work.

That the Crafts aren't viable for Endgame is my lil sweetpot, i hope it stays this way.

Again, I would question what it is you're complaining about. Crafted gear at end game level is mostly for glamour (e.g. not important for functionality). This isn't FFXI where 90% of the gear in the game was crafted. It's possible to level a job from 1-60 using nothing but quest rewards and dungeon gear. So again, what are you complaining about?

I studied the Marketboard and then decided that it is broken. Same with Crafting Stuff. Since then i just don't use it.
A easy Way to make it more affordable is just to break the System that you need to invest Millions of Gil for the Equip the Crafter uses. A Way would be the new Tomes of Esoterics sell Crafting Gear.

You mean like the NPC in Mor Dhona that sells non-meldable crafting gear in exchange for turning in crafted token items? Oh wait, no you want to be able to run content on a battle job and then apply rewards from said content toward crafting; rather than using those tomes to purchase gear that is better out-of-the-box than crafted gear.

The Crafting in MMO's was never intended for making Profit. It was to provide Support for the PvE or PvP. I dont say to totally make it worthless but to nerf it down to a level where a normal player can buy stuff after saving his dungeon run gil for 2-3 weeks. Or give PvE Players a Way of getting Gil while restricting the Crafters just to raise the Price. I think you like the first way...right?

But here there was some Players who thought "cool we can rip em off because it's not so easy doing crafting here in xiv let's build up a monopol!" And then...you have the Situation we have now.

Not sure what a "monopol" is, but you're definitely confused about the concept of a free market. Crafters charge what consumers are willing to pay for their wares. Furthermore, no one forces you to purchase crafted items and certainly no one prevents you from seeking a different price or making those items yourself. As for crafting being difficult in this game, yeah I guess it is when compared to the click a single button, get item crafting of some other games (WoW, GW2, etc.).

If a crafter's sole purpose is to support the PVE and PVP players, then does that obligate the PVE players to support the crafters? In other words, do you spend your time following a gatherer around clearing out aggroing mobs or farming materials to give to away?

I wanted the Arachne Set just for the Looks. The Set is outdated since...long Time. But still Crafters want nearly a Million Gil for one Piece. You can buy EVERYTHING! For roughly 300-400K Gil. So you just pay a Crafter for hitting 2-3 Macros double the Mats. Thats called a ripoff in Real World my Friend. And this was just an example on me. There are countless Players like that.

So you wanted gear solely for glamour purposes, didn't agree with the prices being offered, and immediately declared all crafters to be greedy, capitalistic, money-whores whose only concern is making a 600% profit off the poor downtrodden masses? Did you bother to get the materials and ask a crafter to make those items using the materials you provided? Also you previously stated that "crafting wasn't easy" which is why we're able to "rip players off", but then you go on to say that making the items you wanted only consists of hitting 2-3 macros.

And it's really much more worse with Stuff thats "up to date".

e.g. Things that are currently relevant, still not considered mandatory by any means, and requires current materials which take slightly more effort to procure.

Leveling a Crafting Class takes Weeks. Why? Well obiviously many don't want to help you. Your a new Competitor on the Marketplace. Nobody wants to share Spoils and so on. To take it simple everyone is controlled by his Greed aka "IT'S MY TREASUUUUUUURE GOLLUM GOLLUM!"

You know, I've heard there are games out there where a single character has the ability to level all crafts and gathering professions, essentially making them completely self-sufficient. I sure wish this game was like that... oh wait...