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    Penguin's Avatar
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    Tyrith Peng
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    i only said the lucrezia monk sucked from a progression group standpoint, as far as typical monks go, hes still way up there, but if you look at the monks dps in that T10 where the blm did 700 dps, you'll notice is extremely low compared to some other parses around, i even remember hak mentioning it at the time.
    I don't think that was the same monk they use for their world progression group firstly and you could go as far as saying the same for the other 2 dps that weren't the blm if you are going to base the numbers purely off the highest possible cherry picked parses that people have posted.

    Also since you mentioned that you thought DnT's monks were way better i would point out in the old monk thread Odowla made a post a short time before echo was added to final coil that he had finally broken 600 on T11 and was the only monk in DnT to do so, something which pretty much all "top tier" monks were consistently hitting every week way before he made that post.
    And honestly I'm not trying to take anything away from Odowla because although I've never played with him I'm sure hes a great player but I'm just making the point that taking a few parses and comparing them without actual context is extremely stupid.

    What i do know is their main progression monk has cleared the last few tiers of content faster than any other monk in the game and that included Bahamut which was basically just a dps check.
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    I'm just making the point that taking a few parses and comparing them without actual context is extremely stupid.
    This is an important point, and is often ignored by many with just raw comparisons of numbers. So many factors to consider outside just a raw number at the end of a fight. Group comp, fight strat, etc can all greatly change the maximum damage potential for that scenario.
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    I don't think that was the same monk they use for their world progression group firstly and you could go as far as saying the same for the other 2 dps that weren't the blm if you are going to base the numbers purely off the highest possible cherry picked parses that people have posted.
    hmm, you could be right that it wasnt the same monk they use for progression, but either way, they were far to low to be just considered a bad run, need to be a lot more consistent for top tier, so my point still stands
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    hmm, you could be right that it wasnt the same monk they use for progression, but either way, they were far to low to be just considered a bad run, need to be a lot more consistent for top tier, so my point still stands
    Yea the main monk that got world first isn't in Lucrezia anymore. Hasn't been for some months now. Moved to Carbuncle and started his own FC. Recently moved to another server and joined an FC ( I forget the name of it). Spoke with him when he visited Gilgamesh one morning(was the most random stuff when I recognized the name lol). This was before Elysium formed, as he noted how they payed attention to DnT and CL. He won't be doing world progression this time around b/c of real life and work. But yea the world first monk is pretty beastly. Rialmer Laurens is his char name. The best melee in Lucrezia last I checked were Lito Nyan(Currently has a name like Bahamut clws plz (drg)), Chloro Cradle(the nin), and him before he left.
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