Thread: Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

What's the general opinion of finishing a parse with TK?

Originally Posted by Phireblast

What's the general opinion of finishing a parse with TK?

If your about to end a parse on a dummy or boss fight then TK should always be use. Its our highest potency skill and the GL3 stacks are gonna go to waste anyways so its not like your padding the meters.

Originally Posted by Phireblast

What's the general opinion of finishing a parse with TK?

It's one more hit that does less than double the damage of your average skill. It will make no difference to your parse.

Seems a lot of our HW stuff revolves around softening the blow when it comes to greased lightning. . At full greased lightning is the only time Monks can compete with other classes. None the less, it would seem the fixes aren't enough as Monks are parsing below other full on DPS.

Does greased lightning need an overhaul? As it stands, SE either designs bosses around never disappearing so 100% uptime can be maintained, or Monk just deals with being a lesser DPS: if they buff greased lightning, monks will overperform on bosses that seldom if ever go away. If they keep it as is, they'll keep underperforming on bosses that force stacks to fall off (Ravana does this a lot for instance). If they buff chakra or TK, then they may end up overshooting it and giving monk a wonky rotation where those skills are used even when on a boss. If they buff greased lightning duration then TK becomes another one ilm punch: useless.

What can be done to put Monk in a good place?

@Tila

I think the concept of GL stacks is a good idea and I'm ok with it if there are fights where we'll be outperformed by other jobs because of too many stacks loss. Since I'm a Melee-lover I leveled my NIN to cover these situations but I don't think there is (not yet) a fight where MNK can't do an honorable DPS even if less than other jobs would do. With Form shift we save one complete rotation to reach GL3, so there's that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEO1vG64IoI
1137 with only party buff. I wish I had my Hive claws..I also forgot to pop invig halfway in+applied ToD at a weird time, but it's w/e.

I was toying with the idea of only using perfect balance to get greased lightning stacks back up. What would you say is the dps gain for using a perfect, perfect balance DPS rotation, vs the effect of using it to go right back to 3 stacks when they fall off?

People use Fracture? I barely even use ToD in my full rotation due to the high TP cost. A4 taught me a good lesson on TP management. The TP cost of ToD is already high enough, I don't see how Fracture can be thrown into the mix. Unless you're talking about bosses such as Ravana which has tons of phase changes which gives you time to recover TP. Then yeah, I understand how ToD is beneficial with 270 total potency, but not fracture. I just don't see the reason to add Fracture into the rotation for something of 200 potency and 80 TP. Although I can see the allure for high DPS parse numbers, but otherwise you are simply gimping your TP management and worse comes the worst you have to use Purification which is a huge nono.

Originally Posted by Dami

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using purification to compensate for fractures TP cost is better than using forbidden chakra and not using fracture.
i did the math for this at some point, i think it was in the old monk thread though, and that wasn't even taking into account the rotational benefit of using fracture.